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Old 09-30-2013, 11:36 PM
 
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Originally Posted by iNviNciBL3 View Post


Government didnt even need to shut down, things could still be running if Republicans werent so butthurt over Obamacare
House, Senate parry on 'Obamacare' as shutdown imminent


Government services affected by shutdown -
National Parks, Tax Returns, Tax Audits, WIC Program, E-Verify, Health, Gun Permits, Military Pay, Passports, Work Safety.

Government services not affected by shutdown (this should be the "important stuff" list) -
Homeland Security, Mail, Social Security, Air Travel, Prisons, VA Mortgages, Presidents Salary(really?), Congressional Salary(lmfao.), Food Stamps ( ), Food Inspection.

Should switch Military pay, Work Saftey and Health for President Salary, Congressional Salary and Food stamps.
conservatives got their wish. The conservative party is run by insane people.

 
Old 09-30-2013, 11:36 PM
 
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The ACA has nothing to do with the debt ceiling.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

The debt ceiling increase is needed so we can pay the bills we've already incurred.
Obviously you missed the memo where the ACA is being funded on top of everything else needed in raising the Debt Ceiling.
 
Old 09-30-2013, 11:37 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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You have to prosecute people in court to enforce a law.
Um... no.

Enforcement of DOMA meant that gay people legally married in states that recognized gay marriage did not get federal recognition or benefits, same for military benefits. Those provisions were enforced until the law was struck down.
 
Old 09-30-2013, 11:38 PM
 
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It all comes out of the same government debt -- the money is NOT there for the ACA. If the money were there, then the debt ceiling would not have to be increased.
Repealing Obamacare increases the deficit. I'm a pretty vocal opponent of Obamacare, but it doesn't increase the debt load.

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Assuming that H.R. 6079 is enacted near the beginning of fiscal year 2013, CBO and JCT estimate that, on balance, the direct spending and revenue effects of enacting that legislation would cause a net increase in federal budget deficits of $109 billion over the 2013–2022 period. Specifically, we estimate that H.R. 6079 would reduce direct spending by $890 billion and reduce revenues by $1 trillion between 2013 and 2022, thus adding $109 billion to federal budget deficits over that period.
CBO | Letter to the Honorable John Boehner providing an estimate for H.R. 6079, the Repeal of Obamacare Act
 
Old 09-30-2013, 11:39 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Obviously you missed the memo where the ACA is being funded on top of everything else needed in raising the Debt Ceiling.
The fact that you keep including the debt ceiling in the same sentence as the ACA means you still do not understand what it is.

The ACA was funded by taxes/fees and did not require additional deficit spending, at least not for the next few years. It has nothing to do with the debt ceiling.
 
Old 09-30-2013, 11:40 PM
 
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You know darn well republicans don't want obamacare because they think it will work and they get screwed because it wasn't their idea
Nope. That is liberal propaganda.
 
Old 09-30-2013, 11:40 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Default Today's GOP worst in history

The Republicans were interrupted by the departure of Bush. They were working on creating another Great Depression. Failing that, they have succeeded in shutting down the Government with their stupid demands. History in the making. Today's Tea bagger-downgraded Republican party is now officially the worst in history.

The President is the best in history for continually taking the high road against such pathetic opposition, and effectively doing his job. It is evident that Republicans FEAR the living hell out of the Affordable Health Care because they know that once it goes into effect, it will be a resounding success.
 
Old 09-30-2013, 11:41 PM
 
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The fact that you keep including the debt ceiling in the same sentence as the ACA means you still do not understand what it is.

The ACA was funded by taxes/fees and did not require additional deficit spending, at least not for the next few years. It has nothing to do with the debt ceiling.
Really? So then what exactly is this shutdown about?
 
Old 09-30-2013, 11:41 PM
 
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Originally Posted by atltechdude View Post
The fact that you keep including the debt ceiling in the same sentence as the ACA means you still do not understand what it is.

The ACA was funded by taxes/fees and did not require additional deficit spending, at least not for the next few years. It has nothing to do with the debt ceiling.
Every cent the government borrows to spend has "something to do" with the debt ceiling.
 
Old 09-30-2013, 11:43 PM
 
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History in the making. Today's Tea bagger-downgraded Republican party is now officially the worst in history.
You would have been a Tory in the American Revolution.
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