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Old 10-01-2013, 01:04 AM
 
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While I by no means implicitly trust the government, the idea that members of Congress or anyone in a high political office would have unfettered access to the private details people will submit to the health exchanges in their applications is really absurd.
Sure, just like the IRS did not deliberately distribute Romney's tax return information.

Just like the IRS does not target groups via partisan concern for delay and obstruction.

I'm sorry, anyone who still manages to believe that our federal government hasn't been turned into a corrupt machine for the benefit of a poltiical party is a gullible fool. Democrat politicians spy on people with impunity and NOBODY is ever prosecuted.
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Old 10-01-2013, 01:06 AM
 
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Please inform yourself on the ACA. It provides hundreds of billions in subsidies to people who could not afford it.
If I can't afford it now, how can I afford to pay the subsidies for others AND my own bills?
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Old 10-01-2013, 01:06 AM
 
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If you couldn't afford it before how can you afford now? There is no teeth to the mandate, in fact there is incentive to drop your insurance since you can't be denied coverage.
If you look at the policy details the insurance companies don't have to provide coverage for 12 months. So people can drop insurance and then sign up when they get sick, but the insurance company won't cover anything preexisting for a year.
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Old 10-01-2013, 01:06 AM
 
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Please inform yourself on the ACA. It provides hundreds of billions in subsidies to people who could not afford it.
Who's paying for that?
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Old 10-01-2013, 01:07 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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If I can't afford it now, how can I afford to pay the subsidies for others AND my own bills?
If you can't afford it then none of the taxes used to raise the subsidies will affect you.
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Old 10-01-2013, 01:08 AM
 
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If you look at the policy details the insurance companies don't have to provide coverage for 12 months. So people can drop insurance and then sign up when they get sick, but the insurance company won't cover anything preexisting for a year.
There is healthy young adults that could afford insurance running those risks now....
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Old 10-01-2013, 01:08 AM
 
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If I can't afford it now, how can I afford to pay the subsidies for others AND my own bills?
You aren't paying for the subsidies. My dad's taxes were raised, but yours weren't.
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Old 10-01-2013, 01:09 AM
 
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Bringing everyone in the risk pool will lower costs for everyone.
HOW DOES THIS WORK????

Show me how you add everyone's costs together and they add up to less than if you add them up separately...
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Old 10-01-2013, 01:09 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Who's paying for that?
A variety of taxes/fees, mostly expensive health plans, medical devices, businesses who don't provide health care, etc. it's pretty easy to look up with a simple google search.
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Old 10-01-2013, 01:10 AM
 
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You aren't paying for the subsidies. My dad's taxes were raised, but yours weren't.
How do you know that?
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