Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Long-simmering divisions among Republicans burst into public view Tuesday evening, when GOP moderates challenged tea-party conservatives on the Senate floor over their refusal to proceed to formal negotiations with Democrats over the federal budget.
On one side, Sens. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) insisted that the GOP must block any effort to name a conference committee to reconcile differences between the budgets approved by the Democrat-controlled Senate, which proposes nearly $1 trillion in new taxes over the next decade, and the Republican House, which proposes to eliminate the deficit within 10 years entirely through spending cuts.
Here is an article of Ted Cruz saying conservative shouldn't negotiate over the budget with Democrats
The Dems have been trying to get the House to go to conference on Budget since April, rejected 18 times by House "leadership". Oh those darn fact thingies again, huh? Yep, Repubs fault to be sure.
If true, is that a good reason to refuse to conference now that the government has been shut down, or just another democrat attempt to pin blame? After all, the dems are the ones refusing to act or negotiate to put an end to this.
Try thinking without the cliff notes from your leaders for once.
Here is proof that conservative refused to negotiate over the budget
Long-simmering divisions among Republicans burst into public view Tuesday evening, when GOP moderates challenged tea-party conservatives on the Senate floor over their refusal to proceed to formal negotiations with Democrats over the federal budget.
On one side, Sens. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) insisted that the GOP must block any effort to name a conference committee to reconcile differences between the budgets approved by the Democrat-controlled Senate, which proposes nearly $1 trillion in new taxes over the next decade, and the Republican House, which proposes to eliminate the deficit within 10 years entirely through spending cuts.
So to say this is about the budget is a huge lie. They have refused for months to negotiate over the budget with Democrats.
Lies, here's proof the D's made it about obamacare.
you mean like Obama refusing to consider negotiating an agreement if his horrendous ACA is even mentioned in any bill he sees?
You mean like Reid declaring a bill dead before it is even written if he disagrees with the concept?
Is that what you mean by the dems wanting to get congress moving, but only in their direction?
Keep it up. The GOP is carving a path to a pounding in the next election - people are getting p*ssed, and though both branches of the government will take heat, the GOP will take the lions share for their stubborness:
"On day three of the partial government shutdown, a new CBS News poll reveals that a large majority of Americans disapprove of the shutdown and more are blaming Republicans than President Obama and the Democrats for it.
Fully 72 percent of Americans disapprove of shutting down the federal government over differences on the Affordable Care Act; just 25 percent approve of this action..."
So why aren't you TPartiers and others happy that you achieved your goal and shut the government down? You should be shouting it from the rooftops and not trying to hide from it. What you're doing doesn't look very manly.
If true, is that a good reason to refuse to conference now that the government has been shut down, or just another democrat attempt to pin blame? After all, the dems are the ones refusing to act or negotiate to put an end to this.
Try thinking without the cliff notes from your leaders for once.
It is if the only thing the Republicans bring to the conference are demands to amend healthcare. Healthcare is a separate piece of legislation. Democrats aren't required to link them together, just because Republicans want to do so.
Boehner needs to step up to the plate. A clean budget bill can be offered to the House, can be passed in the House and the Senate, can be signed into law by the President.
And frankly, I thought the Tea Party was actually in favor of clean bills. Isn't that their mantra over porkulus? That attaching pork to bills is wrong. Well, that's what they are doing to the budget bill. They are trying to attach "pork" in the sense that pork is legislation whose benefit or appeal is to a specific, limited group and so is attached to an unrelated piece of legislation which is likely to pass. A budget bill that prevents the government from shutting down is likely to pass, so the Tea Party Republicans are trying to attach their "pork" to the unrelated piece of legislation.
Cantor is counting votes to pass a clean CR. and wondering if Pelosi can deliver, she says yes.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
