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Old 10-01-2013, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Here
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The guys a coward. He can't even face the media to answer question.

 
Old 10-01-2013, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Originally Posted by Drover View Post
Which party has refused to come to the table to talk?
There is not much to talk about, really. The matter at hand is raising the debt ceiling to pay the bills already incurred. The other issues being drug into it are not suitable in this context.

If it was democrats attaching riders to a different bill, the RW would be screaming bloody murder. Boehner needs to regain control of his harpies and send over a clean bill that doesn't try to subvert the ACA, which, BTW, has proven to be enormously popular today. It is not going away. What is going away is all of the republicans in December of 2014 if they don't pull their heads out and do what they are supposed to.
 
Old 10-01-2013, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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I like this shut down too . It will be hilarious when businesses get shut down because their enviromental permits haven't been processed and renewed for the new fiscal year and they are presecuted for violations of the Clean Air and Water Acts by operating without valid permits by DOJ which still has its employees and the Courts are still open you know.
 
Old 10-01-2013, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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So, America should arrest and detain in a maximum security facility anyone who has political ideas that differ from the ones that YOU hold dear? Sounds like tactics used by Third World despots, communist dictators and the totalitarian government of 1930's Germany.

Good to see you fully believe in holding up the ideals of the American Constitution.
Please read the definition before posting. Thanks.

Also, Godwin's law was proven in the 9th post, and again in # 41. You're late.
 
Old 10-01-2013, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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The classic definition of "terrorism" fits the actions of the Tea Partiers in Congress to a "T" (no pun intended). They are attempting to frighten Americans into throwing in with them against the ACA, which is the law of the land, duly voted on and upheld by SCOTUS through the judicial review process.
Actually, ACA is a voluntary tax, no different than FICA, which is also voluntary.
"Some Americans will be exempt from the health insurance mandate, according to the Congressional Budget Office.
These are people who can't afford it: For example, people who make so little they don't have to file a tax return are exempt."
Obamacare open enrollment: What you need to know - CNN.com

AHEM - - - what most Americans are unaware of, is that ACA, being a TAX, is linked with FICA. Yes, that's right. Your consent, via prior enrollment into voluntary national socialism IMPOSES the obligation to insure yourself.

That's why ACA wasn't ruled unconstitutional, despite the common perception that it wasn't quite kosher. Nontaxpayers are not obligated, nor can they be punished for failure to get insurance under ACA.

................
“The Social Security Act does not require an individual to have a Social Security Number (SSN) to live and work within the United States, nor does it require an SSN simply for the purpose of having one...”
- - - The Social Security Administration

http://home.hiwaay.net/~becraft/ScottSSNLetter.pdf
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All you have to do, to cease being a "person liable" is to stop exercising revenue taxable privileges, such as participation in FICA / SocSec and Usury (interest bearing bank accounts, etc).

Remember, no government instituted to SECURE RIGHTS has a delegated power to INFRINGE RIGHTS (tax, restrict or otherwise diminish).
 
Old 10-01-2013, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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Liberals are resorting to their typical antics - name calling and manufacturing unbelievable tales that make no sense whatsoever.
I hope they don't breed and unleash another hoard of the indoctrinated on the public.
 
Old 10-01-2013, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Here
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You're going to have to give these folks something to mobilize. Perhaps some free TV's or something because we all know they don't do anything for nothing.
 
Old 10-01-2013, 09:06 PM
 
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Default Liberals crying about the government shutting down

Now why would that be? Oh because liberals think the government MUST do everything for them. The great "eye of sauron" has been turned off. LOL. The world has ended in the eyes of the liberals. I don't know somehow my power is still on, I was able to get a glass of water from the sink, I went and got some money from the bank and took the kids out to dinner, my cable TV is even on.........I still have phone service.......I had to fill up that gas tank and did. But the government is shut down and we can't go to a national park. Oh my...........LOL. Gimme a break. What a joke it all is when you really look at it. Only in the eyes of the lunatics who want to spend my grandchildren's money who aren't even born yet is this a problem.
 
Old 10-01-2013, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Liberals are resorting to their typical antics - name calling and manufacturing unbelievable tales that make no sense whatsoever.
I hope they don't breed and unleash another hoard of the indoctrinated on the public.
Speaking of breeding - Thanks for the reminder!
 
Old 10-01-2013, 09:12 PM
 
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Harry Reid is the uncompromising one holding us hostage as you say.
Reid is just upholding the law while republicans are doing everything in their power to get rid of it, including shutting down the government. I'm not sure why a law should require compromise anyway.
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