Roberts Said in His ACA Majority Opinion

[lycos679]

Originally Posted by pghquest

So to validate your position that people love Obamacare, you now cite polls which show that the nation will default if it shuts down, despite the nation not defaulting over a shut down?

Huh? Nothing I linked suggests that people think a shutdown = default. Rather, what the polls show is that:

1. Americans are evenly split on Obamacare
2. There is more support for the ACA than there is Obamacare, despite being the same thing.
3. Americans like what is in Obamacare when they are asked point by point.

Kaiser Health Tracking Poll: March 2013 | The Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation

• Tax credits for small businesses to buy insurance: 88% in favor.
• Closing the Medicare drug benefit doughnut hole: 81% in favor.
• Extension of dependent coverage to offspring up to age 26: 76% in favor.
• Expanding Medicaid: 71% in favor.
• Ban on exclusions for preexisting conditions: 66% in favor.
• Employer mandate: 57% in favor.

4. Americans oppose defunding Obamacare.
5. Americans overwhelmingly oppose shutting down the government over Obamacare.
6. If this debate runs into the debt ceiling debate Americans oppose defaulting because of Obamacare.
7. People trust the President more than the GOP on a range of issues. National (US) Poll - October 1, 2013 - American Voters Reject GOP Shu | Quinnipiac University Connecticut

Originally Posted by pghquest

And then you go and cite the fact that people support some parts of the bill, but not all of it, to represent that people support the bill, as if somehow parts, make up the complete?

Again, what? No, people are pretty evenly split, but the support varies depending on what you call it and if you ask them their opinion in each Obamacare point. The support also depends on political affiliation. Republican support goes up the most when you call it the ACA, then independents, and then Democrats.

Originally Posted by pghquest

Thankfully, those of us who dont support the bill, or like leaving the tens of trillions of dollars in new debt to our children, arent as selfish as you, and glad we live in a Represenative Republic, where the minority is protected from aholes who think they get to dictate, simply because the "polls" say so..

Again, what are you even talking about?

[Minethatbird]

Originally Posted by bUU

The right-wingers have done a great job duping loads of their sycophants into hating ACA but haven't managed to put a dent in how much all Americans love the provisions of ACA.

There was apparently not enough love for Americans to give complete control to the Democrats who wrote this beloved legislation. Oh well .....

[Icy Tea]

We're just seeing how irrelevant and badly managed our federal government has become. Its time to start stripping it of its power and give back much of its governing duties to the states and, yes, to the people themselves.
We have better ideas and a better ability to figure out how to solve our current fiscal crisis than they do. We have to cut spending and we have to increase taxes until the debt is paid down. What's fair? Two dollars in spending cuts to every one dollar in new taxes? Three to one?
Its time the people start pushing the politicians back and even slap them around if necessary.
Or just ignore the idiots and keep voting them out every election until they get the message.

[hawkeye2009]

Originally Posted by bUU

How convenient. Yet, even there you've exposed a pretty significant ignorance of what happened in 2012...

I suppose you'll twist and dodge and evade the fact that Democrats actually got more votes in Congressional district races nationwide than Republicans received.

So President Obama was re-elected to the White House, and Democrats received more votes in Congressional district races nationwide. What other vacuous claim are you going to make, now, to try to evade the nonsensical nature of what you're trying to say?

How about the fact that 59% of Americans oppose Obamacare?

Why not put this disasterous law up to a national referendum? I guess the libs are finding out why such legislation should, in the first place, require a 2/3 majority. Otherwise, we will have continued dissent until the initial issues are resolved. I guess you forgot about "deemed passed".

Hey................where is that Thesaurus?