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An uninformed electorate and non-disclosure of their beliefs\intentions.
The vast majority of the people that go in to vote have zero clue which judge is better or what school board person thinks unless they've been incumbent and gotten lots of press. They go in to vote for governor, president, senate etc. but after that it's often a crap shoot that they know anything else.
Keep in mind, these are the same voters that elected Sebelius. So essentially, you are claiming that a bunch of voters intentionally picked a bunch of fringe creationists to be on the school board while at the same time electing Sebelius......lol....riiiiiiiiight.
Additionally, if you read the article I linked a big national group was trying to push this and thus would have gone around informing their fellow ID nuts to get out and vote. When you have around 140k votes cast determining the school board, 10k fundy's getting out to vote can tip the scales when the other 130k have little idea what a candidate really stands for.
If you happen to be one of the hyper informed voters that knows about everybody on a ballot down to the judges, dogcatcher and whatnot then I tip my hat to you sir.
That is all well and good, but your claim that they snuck their way through an election and onto the school board was completely false. They received the most votes. You can speculate on how they did that, but to say that they were able to trick people into voting for them is ridiculous. You may not want to admit it, but there were enough Kansans that wanted creationism taught in the public schools to get the religious wackos elected. It was only after the massive embarassment it caused for the state that the more moderate forces were able to mobilize their resources and vote them out in the next election.
The fact that Texas wants to pollute the sciences with mysticism and superstition should raise a red flag to those who make hiring decisions in STEM fields! Any resume of a student matriculated from a Texas school should be tossed in the circular file since they likely do not know the basics of science and technology.
Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater. We can't blame minor students for the actions of their parents, and inclusion of Creationist theory (which I personally don't subscribe to) does not mean exclusion of regular science. I would rather not see religious teachings in any general ed courses, but their presence doesn't make students less qualified for college. Besides, undergrads have to take a science course or two anyway. No harm done. If a kid buys into creationism they will do so through sources other than a high school classroom. I just feel bad for the polarization it can bring to the classroom environment. Kids have enough social stressors in school without adding forced defense of their beliefs, religious or not.
A lot of hate from the liberals here(no surprise - the #1 requirement to be a liberal or a Democrat is to be a hateful bigot who is intolerant of any views other than your own).
Why are you folks opposed to having a diverse spectrum of ideas on the panel?
Why do you want to crush freedom of expression?
Oh, that is right - because freedom of expression is a constitutionally protected right, and the other requirement to be a liberal is to hate the constitution.
You can't confuse problems in the education system with the material being taught. Adding religious instruction to public schools isn't going to improve the system, but it will cause unnecessary animosity between students. Discussion of Creationism in a secular environment is bound to polarize our kids. I think we've had enough social problems in our schools without adding a debate that doesn't belong there. Home and church do a fine job covering Creationism. Trying to bring it to a secular forum is proselytization.
Oh, that is right - because freedom of expression is a constitutionally protected right, and the other requirement to be a liberal is to hate the constitution.
Where the hell in the constitution does it mention "freedom of expression?"
Not a day goes by when one of you wingers dreams up something new that you think is in the constitution. Is this you?
A lot of hate from the liberals here(no surprise - the #1 requirement to be a liberal or a Democrat is to be a hateful bigot who is intolerant of any views other than your own).
Why are you folks opposed to having a diverse spectrum of ideas on the panel?
Why do you want to crush freedom of expression?
Oh, that is right - because freedom of expression is a constitutionally protected right, and the other requirement to be a liberal is to hate the constitution.
I have a problem with that kind of diversity on the panel only because I don't like what the inclusion of Creationism in public school can lead to. I worry as much for kids who subscribe to Creationism as much as for kids who don't. Outspoken Creationists on the panel will almost necessarily want Creationist teachings in the classrooms, and I don't trust that it's the kids they have in mind.
In my nephew's high school, which does not teach Creationism, a kid did a science project based on Creationist theory and it started a clash between followers and non-followers that endured well beyond the science fair. You could say curriculum inclusion would give Creationist students some legitimacy, but that wouldn't change the behavior of naturally self-centered and self-righteous kids. And I mean ALL kids, not one group or another.
A lot of hate from the liberals here(no surprise - the #1 requirement to be a liberal or a Democrat is to be a hateful bigot who is intolerant of any views other than your own).
Why are you folks opposed to having a diverse spectrum of ideas on the panel?
Why do you want to crush freedom of expression?
Oh, that is right - because freedom of expression is a constitutionally protected right, and the other requirement to be a liberal is to hate the constitution.
Oh save your rightous outrage for those that buy it, it in not about intolerance it is about teaching science and facts, beliefs do not belong in a science class, not matter how hard you wish it would be so.
That is all well and good, but your claim that they snuck their way through an election and onto the school board was completely false. They received the most votes. You can speculate on how they did that, but to say that they were able to trick people into voting for them is ridiculous. You may not want to admit it, but there were enough Kansans that wanted creationism taught in the public schools to get the religious wackos elected. It was only after the massive embarassment it caused for the state that the more moderate forces were able to mobilize their resources and vote them out in the next election.
Again, same voters that elected Sebelius which proves that a lot of moderates were already voting in the initial election but didn't know what they were getting.
The next election, having seen what they were up to...the voters rejected them...and again selected Sebelius.
If you need a historical precedent then you must have forgotten Lyndon Larouch and his followers. They were nutjobs that ran as democrats in Illinois and surrounding states back in the 1980's. They often "won" by running in heavily republican districts and being the unopposed democratic candidate but other times they "won" because they hadn't hit the radar yet and snuck past uninformed voters.
So, using your very same logic, one could claim democrats embraced the teachings of Lyndon Larouche but changed their minds only when embarassed nationally because according to you they could never sneak past voters.
Game-Set-Match....hit the road Larouche supporter.
The bottom line is that KS teaches evolution. It hasn't changed despite the attempts of a fundy group.
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So essentially, you are claiming that a bunch of voters intentionally picked a bunch of fringe creationists to be on the school board while at the same time electing Sebelius......lol....riiiiiiiiight.
