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Old 10-04-2013, 01:00 PM
 
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Congressman Alan Grayson will deliver this petition to Speaker John Boehner's office before the deadline to raise the debt ceiling. Add your name, and help us end the lunacy.

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"Right now, Congress is debating whether the government should shut down, and whether we should default on our national debt. This is lunacy. Congress should focus on solving problems instead of causing them. Representative Alan Grayson has introduced a two-page bill that would fund the government at current levels and raise the debt ceiling for a year. This bill is simple, timely, and just what we need. End the Lunacy."


End the Lunacy
Support Congressman Grayson andf sign the petition.
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Old 10-04-2013, 01:06 PM
 
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Congressman Alan Grayson will deliver this petition to Speaker John Boehner's office before the deadline to raise the debt ceiling. Add your name, and help us end the lunacy.



Support Congressman Grayson andf sign the petition.
Too sane and rational for the House GOP.
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Old 10-04-2013, 01:16 PM
 
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Well I signed it - but it wasn't exactly what they want to hear. I'm sure my support won't go to Speaker Boehner.

Dear Speaker John Boehner,

Hold your ground until my registered party, the Democrats, start negotiating and open their eyes to the fact that the majority of Americans are not in favor of Obamacare. We elected them and they seem to have forgotten that. By further putting the majority of the costs due to the President's waivers, on the middle class, they continue to lower our standard of living.

Disgruntled Democratic Jane Middle Class America
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Old 10-04-2013, 01:18 PM
 
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Well I signed it - but it wasn't exactly what they want to hear. I'm sure my support won't go to Speaker Boehner.

Dear Speaker John Boehner,

Hold your ground until my registered party, the Democrats, start negotiating and open their eyes to the fact that the majority of Americans are not in favor of Obamacare. We elected them and they seem to have forgotten that. By further putting the majority of the costs due to the President's waivers, on the middle class, they continue to lower our standard of living.

Disgruntled Democratic Jane Middle Class America
Not a truthseeker are you?

New Poll: Only One-Third Of Americans Support Repealing, Defunding Or Delaying Obamacare - Forbes
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Old 10-04-2013, 01:36 PM
 
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113TH CONGRESS

1ST SESSION
H. R. 3213

Making appropriations for all departments and agencies of the Federal Government for fiscal year 2014, and for other purposes.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

SEPTEMBER 28, 2013

Mr. GRAYSON introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Appropriations, and in addition to the Committee on Ways and Means, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned

A BILL
Making appropriations for all departments and agencies of the Federal Government for fiscal year 2014, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the ‘‘Anti-Self-Destruction Act’’ or the ‘‘Fiscal Sanity Act of 2013’’.

SEC. 2. CONTINUING APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2014.
There is hereby appropriated for fiscal year 2014—

(1) for each project or activity for which budget authority was provided in the Consolidated and Further Continuing Appropriations Act, 2013 (Public 4 Law 113–6), an amount equal to the budget authority provided in such Act, as reduced pursuant to the Presidential sequestration order dated March 1, 2013, to remain available for a comparable period of availability; and

(2) for entitlements and other mandatory payments whose budget authority was provided in appropriations Acts for fiscal year 2013, and for activities under the Food and Nutrition Act of 2008, such amounts as may be necessary to maintain program levels under current law.

SEC. 3. NONAPPLICABILITY OF DEBT CEILING THROUGH CALENDAR YEAR 2014.
Section 3101(b) of title 31, United States Code, shall not apply for the period beginning on the date of the enactment of this Act and ending on December 31, 2014.



What's in the underlined portions?

Also, the last section - does that mean there is no debt ceiling until the end of next year? You have got to be kidding me.
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Old 10-04-2013, 01:37 PM
 
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113TH CONGRESS

1ST SESSION
H. R. 3213

Making appropriations for all departments and agencies of the Federal Government for fiscal year 2014, and for other purposes.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

SEPTEMBER 28, 2013

Mr. GRAYSON introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Appropriations, and in addition to the Committee on Ways and Means, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned

A BILL
Making appropriations for all departments and agencies of the Federal Government for fiscal year 2014, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the ‘‘Anti-Self-Destruction Act’’ or the ‘‘Fiscal Sanity Act of 2013’’.

SEC. 2. CONTINUING APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2014.
There is hereby appropriated for fiscal year 2014—

(1) for each project or activity for which budget authority was provided in the Consolidated and Further Continuing Appropriations Act, 2013 (Public 4 Law 113–6), an amount equal to the budget authority provided in such Act, as reduced pursuant to the Presidential sequestration order dated March 1, 2013, to remain available for a comparable period of availability; and

(2) for entitlements and other mandatory payments whose budget authority was provided in appropriations Acts for fiscal year 2013, and for activities under the Food and Nutrition Act of 2008, such amounts as may be necessary to maintain program levels under current law.

SEC. 3. NONAPPLICABILITY OF DEBT CEILING THROUGH CALENDAR YEAR 2014.
Section 3101(b) of title 31, United States Code, shall not apply for the period beginning on the date of the enactment of this Act and ending on December 31, 2014.



What in the underlined portions?

Also, the last section - does that mean there is no debt ceiling until the end of next year? You have got to be kidding me.
You mean no more hostage taking for another year?

How else would the GOP get what they want?
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Old 10-04-2013, 01:39 PM
 
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Why don't you liberals learn how to spend within your means?
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Old 10-04-2013, 01:43 PM
 
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Also - Grayson is a liar. His petition says...

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Petition: "Right now, Congress is debating whether the government should shut down, and whether we should default on our national debt. This is lunacy. Congress should focus on solving problems instead of causing them. Representative Alan Grayson has introduced a two-page bill that would fund the government at current levels and raise the debt ceiling for a year. This bill is simple, timely, and just what we need. End the Lunacy."
That bill does not say to raise the debt ceiling... it says the debt ceiling will not be applicable. That is two totally different things.

This is how politicians operate. Put a claim on the front page and hope people do not figure out the details.
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Old 10-04-2013, 01:45 PM
 
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You mean no more hostage taking for another year?

How else would the GOP get what they want?

Hostage taking??...

Can't help you... too far gone for any sense to sink in.
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Old 10-04-2013, 01:55 PM
 
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Right.....because a poll of 1,976 people is such a large sample size.


"When asked what their favorite vodka was, 2,000 bourbon drinkers said, "um.....Russian?"
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