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Old 11-18-2007, 01:49 PM
 
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What does everybody think of this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1UEv2PIzl4

At the 2 minute 35 second mark of the video the flag is still. When the astronaut goes past it, it starts to move.

There's an analysis of it here at the 3 minute 5 second mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC1legw5-gs

It's got me wondering.

 
Old 11-18-2007, 09:32 PM
 
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Apollo a hoax? You're kidding, right?
 
Old 11-19-2007, 10:12 AM
 
Location: MO Ozarkian in NE Hoosierana
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Capricorn One

and... Phil Plait's Bad Astronomy: Bad TV
 
Old 11-22-2007, 03:48 AM
 
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There's a lot of video evidence that the missions were faked.

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There's a noticeable difference in the body movements in these two clips.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdMvQTNLaUE
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11v.1101330.rm

What I hypothesize is that only slow-motion was used in Apollo 11. Later, they improved thier methods of simulating lunar gravity and started using a combination of slow-motion and support wires. The slow-motion in the later missions might not have been exactly half-speed. It might have been sixty five or seventy percent of natural speed. It looked better but it was inconsistent with Apollo 11 footage. The inconsistency is apparent.

At around the 21 minute mark of this video the above footage from Apollo 11 can be seen played at double speed.
http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=4135126565081757736&q=apollo

It looks just like movement in earth gravity.
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If you look at the acceleration of the object that falls from the astronaut's backpack and the acceleration of the hammer and feather that fall, it's apparant that the there's a difference in the way gravity affects the objects differently.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C5_dOEyAfk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK2Fy85VyRg

Evidently the slow-motion speed is different.
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Here are some videos.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgID31UpYfA&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6MvcIs4OcQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdMvQTNLaUE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQj-Mh__fRc&NR=1
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=sgID31UpYfA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vENebR5hsRs
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5278489814268946247 (broken link)

This is interesting.
http://www.nardwuar.com/vs/bill_kaysing/


The astronauts look pretty nervous at the press conference.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RcKLAo62Ro

Their behavior look pretty suspicious here too. It begins in the second half of the video.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2265515730495966561

If you look at the way the flag moves in this clip, it's clear that the astronaut doesn't touch it as the flag moves toward him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1UEv2PIzl4

If he'd touched it, it would have moved away from him.

It's analyzed here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC1legw5-gs

I'd like to hear some opinions on the way the flag moves.


There are a lot of plausible alternative scenarios for the moon rocks. All we have are documents that say they are real. If we aren't geologists in a laboratory looking at the rocks, we have no way of varifying that what we read is real.
There may be a lot of scientists who have sold out and are lying about the rocks and we only read what they say.
If there is video evidence that some of the footage was faked, it was probably all faked. Video evidence trumps what some documents or journals say as people can write lies.
Here are some possible scenarios for the rocks.
http://www.nardwuar.com/vs/bill_kaysing/index.html
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Another point here is that the moon rocks were fake. Are the moon rocks real?
No, they are not real. NASA has a well-developed ceramics laboratory with high-temperature ovens-
That's another way NASA could prove they went to the moon, 'cause they brought back these rocks. Interestingly enough, at the University of British Columbia here, David Strangway, the President of U.B.C., was the guy in charge of inspecting the moon rocks.
OK, fine, why don't you call him up and ask him what he thinks about them.
So what happened, the moon rocks were not real?
No, they were manufactured on Earth to look like moon rocks, but since nobody has any moon rocks to compare them with, it's very simple to make up a moon rock and say, hey, this came from the moon.
Well, how would you know it is a moon rock? Like, how do you know it's not a moon rock - how do you know it's a fake?
I had a Seattle geologist who examined moon rocks and he said, "There's no question, Bill, that these rocks were made in a laboratory on Earth."
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http://www.erichufschmid.net/MoreInfoForScienceChallenge.html
(excerpt)
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9) Moon rocks are in Antarctica?
Barbara Cohen, a researcher from the University of New Mexico, was picking up rocks in Antarctica. She sent them to Houston, Texas for an analysis.
The scientists in Houston discovered that one of the Antarctic rocks closely matched the NASA moon rocks.
The scientists then concluded that one of the rocks from Antarctica was actually from the moon:
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6620370/
How did rocks from the moon get in Antarctica?
NASA and Ms. Cohen want us to believe that a big meteor crashed into the moon a while ago, and pieces of the moon were sent flying into space. A few of those pieces landed in Antarctica.
Take a look at how far away the moon is from the earth. If it were true that rocks were ejected from the moon with such velocity that they could escape the moon's gravity and fly out into space, what are the chances that any of them would survive the fall through the atmosphere and land on tiny Antarctica hundreds of thousands of kilometers away? Furthermore, the rock has to land in a location where humans can find it many years later.
A more sensible explanation is that the NASA moon rocks were rocks from Antarctica.
Therefore, when someone travels to Antarctica and sends rock samples to Houston, Texas for analysis, some of the rocks will closely match the Apollo moon rocks.
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Here are some threads by a hoax-believer who seems to have done a lot of research. There's a lot of good stuff here.


http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=11139
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=11116&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=11053&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=10575&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=10576&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=10553&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=10234&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9659&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9890&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9853&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9661&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9403&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9663&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9690&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9167&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9235&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9436&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=8768&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9174&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9338&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9097&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=8687&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=8984&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=8985&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=8983&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=8986&hl=apollo

I can't get these to come out as hot links. If the moderator can't correct this, I guess you'll just have to copy and paste them. Sorry.

Last edited by Cosmored; 11-22-2007 at 03:55 AM.. Reason: My links didn't come out as hot links.
 
Old 11-22-2007, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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Apollo a hoax? You're kidding, right?
Yeah really; I'm so tired of this particular conspiracy theory!
 
Old 11-22-2007, 08:18 AM
 
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Yes. Yes, indeed. Apollo was a hoax.

Its purpose was to conceal the well known and documented fact there is a alien lizard space base on the dark side of the moon that is directing the US and inter-galactic secret shadow government.

Serious? just find some Chinese tech folks to chat this with >>>

China satellite orbits Earth's moon - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/space/11/05/china.orbit.ap/index.html - broken link)
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