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The point of Obamacare was to get the 30 (or 45 million) without insurance, contributing to the system, thus lowering the cost by not leaving them to be paid by the insured.
To pretend that he didnt promise costs would go down is a lie.
The number is closing in on 50 million. Just as many had sub prime policies with high deductibles and low lifetime caps.
It has been estimated that 20 million will fall thru the donut hole and remain uninsured.
No doubt about it, Obama projected costs will go down for comparative benefits.
It appears some are only comparing costs, not benefits.
"In June, the Ohio Department of Insurance predicted that individual-market rates there would increase by 88 percent. In August, the state announced that premiums would increase by a lower amount, 41 percent. Our analysis finds that Ohio rates will actually decrease by an average of 30 percent."
Interestingly, none of these crunches took comparable benefits into consideration.
What were you saying about comparable benefits? Obamacare
So not only do they see an increase in premiums.. (only 41 percent ) but now they have no choice of doctors.. And if you're increasing taxes, in order to give back a subsidy, are you actually getting a decrease, or will your kids have to pay it back?
LOL...
ACA can do nothing but INCREASE COSTS.
You cannot hire more bureaucrats and tax collectors without increasing costs.
You cannot make more paperwork and overhead without increasing costs.
You cannot "squeeze" insurance companies to pay out more without increasing costs.
You cannot compel coverage for pre-existing conditions without increasing costs.
The only question is : how HIGH is that increase?
Obama will have to raise taxes and Obama is going to go down the income ladder and lots of people are going to be on the receiving end of Obama's class warfare rhetoric. These people will wake up to find out that Obama calls them rich and wants them to pay more taxes.
Thats ridiculous unless you think Obamacare will cause people to get sicker than normal and thus improved benefits would be needed..
Preventative care goes a long way towards reducing overall, long terms healthcare costs.
For example, most dental insurance covers 2 cleanings a year. This allows a professional to get the gunk off and screen for early indications of trouble. It's a small investment towards avoiding root canals , crowns and implants down the road.
The number is closing in on 50 million. Just as many had sub prime policies with high deductibles and low lifetime caps..
Lie, it was 30 million americans, the other 20 million were illegals who will continue to get free treatment, and not pay into the system, thus it fixes nothing..
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Originally Posted by middle-aged mom
It has been estimated that 20 million will fall thru the donut hole and remain uninsured.
Actually its 30 million, but hey, whats a few million people who will die or go bankrupt without insurance, (Democratic argument that we should pass it, right)?
So if you're doing the net calculations, thats about ZERO new people, and it will only cost us trillions of dollars..
bravo...
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Originally Posted by middle-aged mom
No doubt about it, Obama projected costs will go down for comparative benefits.
It appears some are only comparing costs, not benefits.
Color me shocked you continue to post this propaganda..
No one gives a **** about getting more benefits if they cant afford the god dam cost to begin with.. That was the whole dam point of Obamacare..
Preventative care goes a long way towards reducing overall, long terms healthcare costs.
For example, most dental insurance covers 2 cleanings a year. This allows a professional to get the gunk off and screen for early indications of trouble. It's a small investment towards avoiding root canals , crowns and implants down the road.
Preventive care was always built into most insurance plans. If this is all you have, then I think you need to stop and re-examine your argument because it FAILS
Preventative care goes a long way towards reducing overall, long terms healthcare costs.
For example, most dental insurance covers 2 cleanings a year. This allows a professional to get the gunk off and screen for early indications of trouble. It's a small investment towards avoiding root canals , crowns and implants down the road.
So all of a sudden people are going to stop doing drugs and others will go on diets and lose weight.
Explain how it would even be possible for ANY employer to have insurance premiums fall any greater than 100%.
It was an obvious gaffe
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) but now they have no choice of doctors.. And if you're increasing taxes, in order to give back a subsidy, are you actually getting a decrease, or will your kids have to pay it back?
