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Old 10-07-2013, 05:12 PM
 
Location: texas
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As long as you choose to wallow in ignorance, you can rewrite anything eh, but can you ignore the left-wing's Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot etc....
maybe the discussion should remain of the American Left and Right. I dont see a reason to bring in foreign regimes since none of us followed or follow those ideals.

Im left of center, but have nothing in common with pol pot.
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Old 10-07-2013, 05:21 PM
 
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Originally Posted by EddieB.Good View Post
It's not really surprising. By definition, Conservatives resist social progress, which means resisting emerging and evolving knowledge of the world around them. They can't help but side against any new ideas that expands rights and privileges to those that didn't have them yesterday.
Would you also acknowledge that liberal tenured university professors, as one example, often struggle themselves with moving into the future? They sometimes fear and obstruct online education and technology in favor of bricks and mortar schools, and demand costly low return-on-investment liberal arts general education requirements for even the poorest and financially strained students?

Would you also acknowledge that labor unions have a way of shifting the burden to younger workers to support those who have more seniority, last hired first fired, regardless of performance? And those unions pensions will be straining younger generations.

Would you also acknowledge that teachers unions are struggling with the demand from younger people to have charter schools and vouchers? Education reform is older and unionized teachers struggling against progress from younger teachers who don't favor unions and who expect better quality inner city schools.

Would you also acknowledge that often civil rights leaders still live in the past, and when they file frivolous discrimination lawsuits against entire cities and school districts, they take money away from the poor minority children who live in those cities? And they ignore black-on-black crime to focus on incidents like the one with George Zimmerman?
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Old 10-07-2013, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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One of the issues that I have with conservatism is when they start talking about "tradition" and the way things used to be. The thing is that you can point to any time in the history of this country and it was never all that bad if you were a heterosexual, white, Christian, male. But there have been plenty of times in the past (even now) when it's really sucked if you didn't hit on each of those definitions. Not surprisingly conservatives usually tend to be heterosexual, white males who claim to support Christian values.

And yes, I know that there are PLENTY of conservatives who don't fit that description, but I think you're kidding yourself if you don't picture a white man when you think of a conservative.
What exactly is the context behind "conservative" to you people?

Are you referring to Constitutional Conservatives, religious conservative, social conservative, fiscal conservative, cultural conservative?? You all seem to have your own personal meanings, and just blur them all together.
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Old 10-07-2013, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Default Why Does The Left Wing Always Lie About Right Wing Always Being on the Wrong Side of History?

Why does the Left lie about the Republican party being on the wrong side of history?

The Republican party Abolished slavery

The Republican party Pass the 1964 Civil rights Act, which was passed on a similar bill they tried to pass in 1960 and 3 years before in 1957.

Mean while the left wants to eviscerate the 2nd Amendment, reward illegal immigrates which amnesty and the ability to vote(I wonder which party they will choose), and paint anyone who stands in their way as "Racist" "Nazis" or "Domestic Terrorist"

Why does the Left lie about History, their will, and their intent? is it because no sane person would vote for them?(but then again that might be we they are importing 30,000,000 million illegals on top of 1.2,000,000 legal immigrated, to "Cast ballots Americans just are not willing to cast")

What is your take on this..
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Old 10-07-2013, 05:24 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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If they told the truth, about conservatives OR their own agenda, they would defeat their own agenda as surely as the sun rises.

Lying is their ONLY choice.
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Old 10-07-2013, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Would you also acknowledge that liberal tenured university professors, as one example, often struggle themselves with moving into the future? They sometimes fear and obstruct online education and technology in favor of bricks and mortar schools, and demand costly low return-on-investment liberal arts general education requirements for even the poorest and financially strained students?

Would you also acknowledge that labor unions have a way of shifting the burden to younger workers to support those who have more seniority, last hired first fired, regardless of performance? And those unions pensions will be straining younger generations.

Would you also acknowledge that teachers unions are struggling with the demand from younger people to have charter schools and vouchers? Education reform is older and unionized teachers struggling against progress from younger teachers who don't favor unions and who expect better quality inner city schools.

Would you also acknowledge that often civil rights leaders still live in the past, and when they file frivolous discrimination lawsuits against entire cities and school districts, they take money away from the poor minority children who live in those cities? And they ignore black-on-black crime to focus on incidents like the one with George Zimmerman?
Bravo!
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Old 10-07-2013, 05:25 PM
 
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Maybe because "winning" as a conservative is stopping something from happening, so you don't hear of a conservative victory because the huge monumental change didn't happen, which, historically is not notable.
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Old 10-07-2013, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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What exactly is the context behind "conservative" to you people?

Are you referring to Constitutional Conservatives, religious conservative, social conservative, fiscal conservative, cultural conservative?? You all seem to have your own personal meanings, and just blur them all together.
Their are liberals, if they could think, well do you think would be liberals and believe the brainless crap they do?
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Old 10-07-2013, 05:27 PM
 
Location: texas
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What exactly is the context behind "conservative" to you people?

Are you referring to Constitutional Conservatives, religious conservative, social conservative, fiscal conservative, cultural conservative?? You all seem to have your own personal meanings, and just blur them all together.
maybe because usually one is not one without being another. Its like a chinese restaurant menu, pick from side A and from side B, and you have a conservative.
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Old 10-07-2013, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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maybe the discussion should remain of the American Left and Right. I dont see a reason to bring in foreign regimes since none of us followed or follow those ideals.

Im left of center, but have nothing in common with pol pot.
The OP could not even intelligently identify just who and what the "right-wing" in this country was supposed to be. Are we talking about left-wing ideology, or not? The OP wrote a jumble of mixed topics.
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