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This was reported in todays Seattle Times. There were also a lot of glitches the first couple of days. If all the states had set up their exchanges as successfully as Washington we would be looking at about 500,000 signups and 500,000 pending. But since the Federal site is cumbersome and doesn't even let people browse it will be awhile till we see better numbers from the 36 states linked to Healthcare.gov...That site is better today but it is still not very good.
...we would be looking at about 500,000 signups and 500,000 pending.
Sorry to rain all over your parade, but 500,000 is not 50 Million.
You kept screaming there were 50 Million "uninsured."
You threw a temper tantrums screaming that if the 50 Million were insured, it would increase the size of the "insurance pool" and rates would decrease.
"Health insurance expansions (10 to 13 percent): The expansion of health insurance increases health care cost per capita as people demand more health care when they are better insured. Health insurance has expanded in two ways: (1) by covering an increasing share of the population and (2) by covering each person more completely."
Neutral Source: United States Federal Government General Accounting Office GAO-13-281 PPACA and the Long-Term Fiscal Outlook, January 2013 Page 34
Welcome to the Real World....the World of Economics.
Do the uninsured increase the cost of health care?
According to the Laws of Economics and GAO 13-281 PPACA and everything ever written truthfully....the answer is ""NO."
It costs 10x more to insure people than not insure them.
And then all you have to do is raise the Federal Minimum Wage to $15/hour, and you can enjoy this....
"As personal income increases, people demand more and better goods and services, including health
care. This means that holding other factors constant, as higher personal income increases the quantity and quality of care demanded, overall health care spending increases as well. GDP is a good indicator of the effect of increasing income on health care spending. When GDP is growing, many Americans experience increases in income and will demand more health care services."
Neutral Source: United States Federal Government General Accounting Office GAO-13-281 PPACA and the Long-Term Fiscal Outlook, January 2013 Page 33
Tell us again how Obamacare was supposed to decrease the cost of health care.
The long-term fiscal outlook for Obamacare and your health care system is not good.
Using a magnifying glass to hunt down the 50 Million uninsured...
This was reported in todays Seattle Times. There were also a lot of glitches the first couple of days. If all the states had set up their exchanges as successfully as Washington we would be looking at about 500,000 signups and 500,000 pending. But since the Federal site is cumbersome and doesn't even let people browse it will be awhile till we see better numbers from the 36 states linked to Healthcare.gov...That site is better today but it is still not very good.
Sorry to rain all over your parade, but 500,000 is not 50 Million.
You kept screaming there were 50 Million "uninsured."
You threw a temper tantrums screaming that if the 50 Million were insured, it would increase the size of the "insurance pool" and rates would decrease.
"Health insurance expansions (10 to 13 percent): The expansion of health insurance increases health care cost per capita as people demand more health care when they are better insured. Health insurance has expanded in two ways: (1) by covering an increasing share of the population and (2) by covering each person more completely."
Neutral Source: United States Federal Government General Accounting Office GAO-13-281 PPACA and the Long-Term Fiscal Outlook, January 2013 Page 34
Welcome to the Real World....the World of Economics.
Do the uninsured increase the cost of health care?
According to the Laws of Economics and GAO 13-281 PPACA and everything ever written truthfully....the answer is ""NO."
It costs 10x more to insure people than not insure them.
And then all you have to do is raise the Federal Minimum Wage to $15/hour, and you can enjoy this....
"As personal income increases, people demand more and better goods and services, including health
care. This means that holding other factors constant, as higher personal income increases the quantity and quality of care demanded, overall health care spending increases as well. GDP is a good indicator of the effect of increasing income on health care spending. When GDP is growing, many Americans experience increases in income and will demand more health care services."
Neutral Source: United States Federal Government General Accounting Office GAO-13-281 PPACA and the Long-Term Fiscal Outlook, January 2013 Page 33
Tell us again how Obamacare was supposed to decrease the cost of health care.
The long-term fiscal outlook for Obamacare and your health care system is not good.
Using a magnifying glass to hunt down the 50 Million uninsured...
Mircea
After one week with a system that is still being fixed the numbers are showing a lot of signups ( 40,000 in NYS). The sign up window is 28 weeks I think it will be very good. I dont see a problem with people being able to get the same deduction as a large Corp.
Sorry to rain all over your parade, but 500,000 is not 50 Million.
You kept screaming there were 50 Million "uninsured."
You threw a temper tantrums screaming that if the 50 Million were insured, it would increase the size of the "insurance pool" and rates would decrease.
"Health insurance expansions (10 to 13 percent): The expansion of health insurance increases health care cost per capita as people demand more health care when they are better insured. Health insurance has expanded in two ways: (1) by covering an increasing share of the population and (2) by covering each person more completely."
Neutral Source: United States Federal Government General Accounting Office GAO-13-281 PPACA and the Long-Term Fiscal Outlook, January 2013 Page 34
Welcome to the Real World....the World of Economics.
Do the uninsured increase the cost of health care?
According to the Laws of Economics and GAO 13-281 PPACA and everything ever written truthfully....the answer is ""NO."
It costs 10x more to insure people than not insure them.
And then all you have to do is raise the Federal Minimum Wage to $15/hour, and you can enjoy this....
"As personal income increases, people demand more and better goods and services, including health care. This means that holding other factors constant, as higher personal income increases the quantity and quality of care demanded, overall health care spending increases as well. GDP is a good indicator of the effect of increasing income on health care spending. When GDP is growing, many Americans experience increases in income and will demand more health care services."
Neutral Source: United States Federal Government General Accounting Office GAO-13-281 PPACA and the Long-Term Fiscal Outlook, January 2013 Page 33
Tell us again how Obamacare was supposed to decrease the cost of health care.
The long-term fiscal outlook for Obamacare and your health care system is not good.
Using a magnifying glass to hunt down the 50 Million uninsured...
Mircea
The ACA will only increase overall health spending about 1.5%. For 2022 the ACA will cost 180 billion and Medicare will cost 1.1 trillion. But lets get rid of the ACA and not talk about Medicare. By the way aren't there a lot of deadbeats on Medicare with poor earnings histories or who went out on a disability?
This was reported in todays Seattle Times. There were also a lot of glitches the first couple of days. If all the states had set up their exchanges as successfully as Washington we would be looking at about 500,000 signups and 500,000 pending. But since the Federal site is cumbersome and doesn't even let people browse it will be awhile till we see better numbers from the 36 states linked to Healthcare.gov...That site is better today but it is still not very good.
If 0bama had not waved the employer mandate, how many of those people would have had employer managed health insurance?
If 0bama had not destroyed the 40 hour work week, how many of those people would have full time jobs with employer health insurance?
If 0bamaCare had never been passed, how many of these people who are college students and part-time or low-wage employees, would have kept their low-cost health plans?
The ACA will only increase overall health spending about 1.5%. For 2022 the ACA will cost 180 billion and Medicare will cost 1.1 trillion. But lets get rid of the ACA and not talk about Medicare. By the way aren't there a lot of deadbeats on Medicare with poor earnings histories or who went out on a disability?
You know what spending is going to be in 2022?
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