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The Republicans only asked for Obama to delay the personal mandate beyond Jan 2014, and Obama refused to negotiate, so he shut down the government. It's really just that simple.
Now, you can claim the Republicans initiated the tensions between the two, but it was Reid/Obama who flat out refused to negotiate the delay. But the republicans did not withhold funding, all the funding bills were in the senate, waiting for Reid to pass them. Obama said he would veto any funding bills. It was Obama/Reid who refused to fund government, not the Republicans.
We have 30-40 million uninsured who can now sign up for health insurance, isn't that one of the big selling points you guys have been making?
So, what was so horrible about giving these millions of uninsured people a little more time to sign up, before we pounce on them after Jan 1st and FREAKING PUNISH THE UNINSURED????
First, it wasn't about 'giving a little more time.' It was about stopping Obamacare. The GOP clearly wanted to fund everything but Obamacare.
Second, it's generally accepted by the public that the Republicans were behind the shutdown, regardless of GOP efforts to spin it differently.
"If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you, But make allowance for their doubting too; ... Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!"
it's generally accepted by the public that the Republicans were behind the shutdown, .
it is also generally acctpeted that the republicans shut it down for a good reason...the ACA is a bad , and poorly writen law, but obama WOULD NOT NEGOTIATE
it is also generally acctpeted that the republicans shut it down for a good reason...the ACA is a bad , and poorly writen law, but obama WOULD NOT NEGOTIATE
It's going to be great when reality forces Obama and his minions to delay the individual mandate for a year.
I hope that crow tastes DELICIOUS when these chumps have to eat it.
Wow, you are determined to continue reliving the complete and epic failure of the Tea Party's overreach, over and over and over again, aren't you? The smart thing to do would be to move away from a tactic that 74% of the population thoroughly rejected instead of continually reminding everyone of your party's intractability and willingness to take the country over the edge because you didn't get your way.
But by all means, keep beating that dead horse. Beat it all the way to the next election, and the one beyond. Remind the electorate how your party blew through $24 billion in a prolonged temper tantrum. No one on the left will stop you.
Wow, it is soooooooo depressing how Libs simply can't see the forest through the trees. Everything OICU stated was FACT. I know you don't like FACTS, but too damn bad. From now on we're shouting them loud and proud. Obama FAILED to negotiate and it was Obama who shut down the government. Period. It was Obama who ordered the Barrycades around the WWII monument, as has NEVER been done in U.S. history. It was Obama, who was soooooooooo dug in on rolling out his miserable failure of a website on 10/1, that he wouldn't negotiate a DELAY of the individual mandate. And look where you are now, Libs. The laughing stock of the world! Even Jon Stewart has turned on you!
"If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you, But make allowance for their doubting too; ... Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!"
- Kipling
The definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result.
That's what we're currently doing trusting that the government will reign itself in with respect to spending.
The definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result.
That's what we're currently doing trusting that the government will reign itself in with respect to spending.
Like taking the vote to repeal Obamacare 40 times?
You mean, like trying to get right-wingers to admit that the actions of the RWNJs in Congress in this recent conflict were irresponsible and childish?
No, bad analogy. Nice try though.
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