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Old 10-10-2013, 04:31 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The checks and balances are working.

Long ago a budget was sent through congress at the beginning of each physical year.

Then each year, the congress pass what parts of government were funded, with that budget during that year, to keep that budget balanced.
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Old 10-10-2013, 04:35 PM
 
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No..that can't be. Brother Obama said it's their fault. He'd never tell a lie....never!
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Old 10-10-2013, 05:02 PM
 
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The checks and balances are working.

Long ago a budget was sent through congress at the beginning of each physical year.

Then each year, the congress pass what parts of government were funded, with that budget during that year, to keep that budget balanced.
It wasn't that long ago.
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Old 10-10-2013, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Someplace Wonderful
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I have heard it said that we as individuals no matter where we reside in the food chain. High to low, we all seem unwilling to negotiate. Instead we dig in our heels and stand our ground.

Anyone?
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Old 10-10-2013, 05:07 PM
 
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The checks and balances are working.

Long ago a budget was sent through congress at the beginning of each physical year.

Then each year, the congress pass what parts of government were funded, with that budget during that year, to keep that budget balanced.
If it were truly working the way it was intended, the House would have sent to the Senate a buget funding bill as they did on sept 20th. If the bill was not passed by the senate, the bill should have returned to the house, gone back to committe to hash out the parts of the bill that did not make the vote in the senate.

So far we are waiting for the House to debate and hash out, then vote on a new budget funding bill to send th the senate for their consideration.

So yes, were are all waiting for the resumption of the process.

the house has sent to the senate 41 bills repealing or defunding ACA, all were voted on in the senate and fail to pass. We may be waiting in vane if the House sends up #42.
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Old 10-10-2013, 05:09 PM
 
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The checks and balances are working.

Long ago a budget was sent through congress at the beginning of each physical year.

Then each year, the congress pass what parts of government were funded, with that budget during that year, to keep that budget balanced.
Ah, regular order - the way things are supposed to work. Let's have a look at that, shall we?

The idea is that the House and the Senate each come up with a budget proposal, then sit down in a bicameral conference to hammer out the difference, then pass the budget and pass it on to the President for Signature. That's how it's supposed to work - pretty much like with any other legislation.

The Senate and the House both had budget proposals ready back in spring - end of April, to be exact. So, the Senate majority calls for a budget conference. And they're turned down by the Republicans.

The Senate majority calls for a budget conference - again. And they're turned down by the Republicans - again.

This farce repeated itself 19 times. I wish I was making this up.

19 Times Democrats Tried to Negotiate With Republicans - NationalJournal.com

Why? Because the Teabaggers, as led by Ted Cruz, were worried that old-school GOP members appointed to the conference might come up with a deal that didn't meet with the 'baggers standards of ideological purity. They said so. And so they wanted an imminent disaster - debt ceiling or government shutdown - as leverage. They said that, too. Back in May.

And so, now, after having refused to even discuss the budget proposals no less than 19 times, the House Republicans have the nerve to whine "Why won't anybody negotiaaaaaaaate?" You had your chance.

You mismanaged the Gvt. shutdown public relations game and no one apart form the most faithful party soldiers blame anyone but you. So - your mess, you clean it up, and try to rein in the idiots next time, mmmmkay?
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Old 10-10-2013, 05:15 PM
 
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Ah, regular order - the way things are supposed to work. Let's have a look at that, shall we?

The idea is that the House and the Senate each come up with a budget proposal, then sit down in a bicameral conference to hammer out the difference, then pass the budget and pass it on to the President for Signature. That's how it's supposed to work - pretty much like with any other legislation.

The Senate and the House both had budget proposals ready back in spring - end of April, to be exact. So, the Senate majority calls for a budget conference. And they're turned down by the Republicans.

The Senate majority calls for a budget conference - again. And they're turned down by the Republicans - again.

This farce repeated itself 19 times. I wish I was making this up.

19 Times Democrats Tried to Negotiate With Republicans - NationalJournal.com

Why? Because the Teabaggers, as led by Ted Cruz, were worried that old-school GOP members appointed to the conference might come up with a deal that didn't meet with the 'baggers standards of ideological purity. They said so. And so they wanted an imminent disaster - debt ceiling or government shutdown - as leverage. They said that, too. Back in May.

And so, now, after having refused to even discuss the budget proposals no less than 19 times, the House Republicans have the nerve to whine "Why won't anybody negotiaaaaaaaate?" You had your chance.

You mismanaged the Gvt. shutdown public relations game and no one apart form the most faithful party soldiers blame anyone but you. So - your mess, you clean it up, and try to rein in the idiots next time, mmmmkay?
Yep. And then, after refusing 19 times to meet with the Democrats in conference, they have the temerity to stage this photo op, minutes before the shutdown began, to complain that the Democrats wouldn't meet them in conference. And of course, the Tea Party fools ate it up.

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Old 10-10-2013, 06:59 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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If it were truly working the way it was intended, the House would have sent to the Senate a buget funding bill

You first have to have a budget to work from.
When was the last time Harry Reid let a budget come to the senate floor for a vote?
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Old 10-10-2013, 07:03 PM
 
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Listening to a conference call with my House Rep right now. She's discussing the fact that the House has passed a budget every single year. So half of Congress is getting their budget done. The other half just wants a blank check for a bigger amount each time (oops, I mean "clean CR").

Although the Dems did offer to keep it the same this time, which Obama said was disastrous and would hurt jobs. "Only" going $2 Billion in debt a day is too little debt for this idiot president.
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Old 10-10-2013, 07:10 PM
 
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You first have to have a budget to work from.
When was the last time Harry Reid let a budget come to the senate floor for a vote?
March 23rd 2013. It passed. You mean to tell us you didn't know?

It's weird you'll state that the system works when it's fairly clear you don't know how it's supposed to work, nor what has already transpired, nor are you willing to even read the thread you started.
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