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The Obamacare fanatics have yet to answer the question they used to ask conservatives:
"How will the families that have to suddenly come up with thousands of dollars extra for Obamacare, pay for it? What parts of their family budget is government forcing them to cut, to pay the increased costs of Obamacare mandated by the administration?"
For more and more people, it's not just an academic exercise. They've been stretching their budgets to keep everything covered: Paying the rent, buying food, keeping the lights on, buying clothes for their kids, etc. Now, suddenly, they find they have to pay thousands more, often for less health coverage than they used to have. Which of those other things must they cut, to get the money that government has MANDATED they pay?
Tragic: Young Mother Forced to Choose Between Obamacare Premiums and Feeding Family
Guy Benson | Oct 11, 2013
The Obama administration will rely on emotional anecdotes and incomplete data to help defend their signature law -- once its websites are fixed and people can actually enroll, that is. Critics will counter with reams of statistics proving that Obamacare violates its core promises. While empirical evidence is indispensable, it's also critical to showcase real people who are being actively harmed by the law. Meet this young, disabled mother from Allentown, Pennsylvania:
"It would take food out of our mouths to be able to afford these coverages."
Heartbreaking. Obamacare will force this woman, her husband and their five-year-old son to choose between obtaining coverage and putting food on the table. The law's "affordable" premiums will hike the family's bills by hundreds of dollars compared to their current plan. They can't afford the change, so a desperate decision awaits.
This is why so many Americans have forcefully opposed Obamacare for so long. It's not about "hating" the president. It's not about racial animus. It's not about protecting the rich. It has nothing to do with any of the red herrings proponents toss out to sully and impugn opponents' motives. The truth is that this law hurts people, breaks virtually all of the major promises upon which it was sold, and is simply unaffordable to a federal government that's already facing a long-term debt crisis.
Is it any wonder only about 50,000 have signed up? This is what they are finding out.
Notice that the liberals' solution, in every case, is that the government (which is already broke and $trillions in debt) must spend even more money?
What's wrong with this picture?
The leftists inevitably exhibit their own homophobic tendencies with slurs like this when stressed. My sympathies.
Back to the subject:
The woman got the numbers she is quoting, from her Obamacare website, which already adds in any subsidies (remember that a subsidy means someone else is paying his own full coverage, PLUS a good part of hers).
Even with those, she is still facing a huge increase in money she must pay.
So, liberals, what parts of her family budget must she cut, to pay the additional money you guys are demanding for Obamacare?
Utter nonsense. Small fixed income is under 30 grand. She likely gets a free ride. Now if her small fixed income is 100 grand...she can pay.
She is clearly in the target group that makes out on ACA. They generally end up around 5% of income or less.
No. She happens to live in a state that's run by a political ideologue. Funny, people in her situation all seem to live in a state run by a tea party governor care to explain that?
Exactly right. The governor turned down federal money to expand Medicare which would have covered this woman and many others, money that has now gone to other states. People in her situation across the country will have healthcare, but because her governor is an ass, she will not. There is nothing here that is the fault of the president or Democrats, who put provisions in place to make sure this didn't happen.
Blame is 100% on Corbett. He cares nothing about his own constituents as long as he can look like a hero to the Tea Party idiots. I hope Pennsylvania is paying attention. This is a state that has gone blue in the last two presidential elections. Time to vote this heartless ideologue, and all the others like him, out on their asses.
The Obamacare fanatics have yet to answer the question they used to ask conservatives:
"How will the families that have to suddenly come up with thousands of dollars extra for Obamacare, pay for it? What parts of their family budget is government forcing them to cut, to pay the increased costs of Obamacare mandated by the administration?"
For more and more people, it's not just an academic exercise. They've been stretching their budgets to keep everything covered: Paying the rent, buying food, keeping the lights on, buying clothes for their kids, etc. Now, suddenly, they find they have to pay thousands more, often for less health coverage than they used to have. Which of those other things must they cut, to get the money that government has MANDATED they pay?
Tragic: Young Mother Forced to Choose Between Obamacare Premiums and Feeding Family
Guy Benson | Oct 11, 2013
The Obama administration will rely on emotional anecdotes and incomplete data to help defend their signature law -- once its websites are fixed and people can actually enroll, that is. Critics will counter with reams of statistics proving that Obamacare violates its core promises. While empirical evidence is indispensable, it's also critical to showcase real people who are being actively harmed by the law. Meet this young, disabled mother from Allentown, Pennsylvania:
"It would take food out of our mouths to be able to afford these coverages."
Heartbreaking. Obamacare will force this woman, her husband and their five-year-old son to choose between obtaining coverage and putting food on the table. The law's "affordable" premiums will hike the family's bills by hundreds of dollars compared to their current plan. They can't afford the change, so a desperate decision awaits.
This is why so many Americans have forcefully opposed Obamacare for so long. It's not about "hating" the president. It's not about racial animus. It's not about protecting the rich. It has nothing to do with any of the red herrings proponents toss out to sully and impugn opponents' motives. The truth is that this law hurts people, breaks virtually all of the major promises upon which it was sold, and is simply unaffordable to a federal government that's already facing a long-term debt crisis.
What's tragic is that this tragedy is caused to Republicans at the state level playing political games and refusing the expand Medicaid as per the plan. This woman's pain is, of course, their gain. You can bet she was getting subsidized in the past - don't tell me that somewhere in the past world of healthcare she was able to get a great comprehensive plan out of pocket.
Exactly right. The governor turned down federal money to expand Medicare which would have covered this woman and many others, money that has now gone to other states. People in her situation across the country will have healthcare, but because her governor is an ass, she will not. There is nothing here that is the fault of the president or Democrats, who put provisions in place to make sure this didn't happen.
Blame is 100% on Corbett. He cares nothing about his own constituents as long as he can look like a hero to the Tea Party idiots. I hope Pennsylvania is paying attention. This is a state that has gone blue in the last two presidential elections. Time to vote this heartless ideologue, and all the others like him, out on their asses.
His popularity rating is close to single digits by the last poll done, which I did a topic on in the Election forum. Incumbents here are usually entrenched in politics and win a second term, but Corbett looks to be the 2nd exception in 10 or so years. Ironically, Mark Schweiker was the last Republican who failed to win a second term because he was unpopular. Put Corbett up against a reasonable Democratic opponent and he is toast. I'm voting against Corbett next year.
By the way, we've voted for the Democratic presidential candidate since Clinton, but state politics are a different dynamic
Is her state one of the ones that did not expand Medicaid to more low income families?
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WFMZ is based in Allentown, PA. So, yes, she lives in the same state I do, with a tea party fanatic of a governor named Tom Corbett who refused to expand Medicaid and still refuses to do so
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The woman who talked; her family is disabled, living on a "fixed income" so I'm assuming not much, and has a child. If they lived in NJ or MD, they would have been eligible for Medicaid. Not here with the teabagger occupying the governor's mansion in Harrisburg. Yet the big guns, small brains crowd blames it on the ACA. Wrong, blame it on the governors who refuse to cover the people that make too much money for Medicaid's old income guidelines and for those whose jobs don't cover them and don't pay enough. They are the people who fell through the cracks of the ACA, but not solely because of the law. The blame is being conveniently placed on the ACA, when, coincidentally, this "loophole" seems to only be happening in states with a teabagger governor
In Pennsylvania, more than a half-million people who don't have insurance are waiting to hear whether the state will take advantage of a Medicaid expansion that's part of the Affordable Care Act.
The federal law would allow people earning up to 138 percent of federal poverty guidelines to sign up for Medicaid. But a Supreme Court ruling that largely upheld the law gave states the choice whether to expand their Medicaid programs.
About half decided against it or are still working out agreements with the Obama administration. Pennsylvania falls into that latter category, leaving the state's working poor in limbo for now.
She quoted the premium but from her description she is entitled to a very large Tax Credit. You need to know where she netted not the gross charge.
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Originally Posted by theunbrainwashed
If they lived in NJ or MD, they would have been eligible for Medicaid.
Notice that the liberals' solution, in every case, is that the government (which is already broke and $trillions in debt) must spend even more money?
What's wrong with this picture?
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Originally Posted by HeyJude514
Exactly right. The governor turned down federal money to expand Medicare which would have covered this woman and many others,
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Originally Posted by ambient
What's tragic is that this tragedy is caused to Republicans at the state level playing political games and refusing the expand Medicaid
And the standings have now risen to 4-for-4.
EVERY liberal fanatic sees as the only solution, that the government must spend even more money... when it has none to spend and is $17 trillion in debt.
In Pennsylvania, more than a half-million people who don't have insurance are waiting to hear whether the state will take advantage of a Medicaid expansion
And now five-for-five.
EVERY liberal fanatic sees as the only solution, that the government must spend even more money... when it has none to spend and is $17 trillion in debt.
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care to explain that?
