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Old 10-27-2013, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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You do realize, or at least should, that it is silly to put in pointlessly self-serving disclaimers as an attempt to preempt people responding to what you implied or attempted to project, even if not explicitly writing it, in your own posting.
You do realize, or at least should, that your personal nastiness toward poster Ghostly1 has little to do with the thread topic.

 
Old 10-27-2013, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Wherever I happen to be at the moment
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Your observations tend to be centrist and in this era many aren't seeking a middle ground
And more's the pity. Moderation would be a welcome change from the bombastic excesses on both sides of the aisle. Why, some good things like cooperation, moving forward, responsibility, good of the country might even come of it. Imagine that! It could be a real boon for seniors, especially those in need, since some reasonable accommodations and protections might result.
 
Old 10-27-2013, 10:48 AM
 
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And more's the pity. Moderation would be a welcome change from the bombastic excesses on both sides of the aisle. Why, some good things like cooperation, moving forward, responsibility, good of the country might even come of it. Imagine that! It could be a real boon for seniors, especially those in need, since some reasonable accommodations and protections might result.
There are real issues that don't get discussed until poop hits the fan like now with ACA. There are some real serious challenges to seniors well being that isn't yet on most folks radar screen. In keeping with this thread how will the ACA impact social service/Medicaid services for poor seniors as their needs compete with the expanded role of Medicaid.
 
Old 10-27-2013, 11:05 AM
 
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There are real issues that don't get discussed until poop hits the fan like now with ACA. There are some real serious challenges to seniors well being that isn't yet on most folks radar screen. In keeping with this thread how will the ACA impact social service/Medicaid services for poor seniors as their needs compete with the expanded role of Medicaid.

No telling! Not all states have expanded Medicaid as originally anticipated in the ACA. If ever there was a governmental program initiated while tons of questions remained unanswered as well as unknown, this, unfortunately, seems to be it. The country's first clue should have been the pronouncement that Congress had to pass it in order to know what was in it. Without taking sides, the best I can do is sit back and wait. If it works in the end, so much the better. If it's premises are unrealistic and impossible, perhaps it can be fixed. But my/our concern is for children and grandchildren who will have to deal with it as it is now. As for seniors who don't qualify for Medicare, the uncertainty must be scary.

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Old 10-27-2013, 11:12 AM
 
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Then there's my cousin who never paid into SS, has no savings, pension, husband, kids, and who worked ''under the table'' all her life. When she can no longer bring in money she will be SOL.
She's probably one of the Obama supporters screaming pay your fair share.
 
Old 10-27-2013, 11:17 AM
 
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Just wondering what happens to an elderly person or couple who have no savings and don't receive enough in social security and other payouts to support themselves. If they don't want to receive assistance from family members or have no family, would the government leave them to become homeless on the streets or in homeless shelters?
I would say that THEY left themselves to become homeless.

If I had the money, and they were nice people, I would help them out.

I certainly don't want the government looting MY responsible behavior to give to them.
 
Old 10-27-2013, 11:18 AM
 
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I prepare me and mine for old age.

The rest are not my problem.
 
Old 10-27-2013, 11:38 AM
 
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I prepare me and mine for old age.

The rest are not my problem.
Ahhhh, caveman/Neanderthal mentality. LOL Seems to me that having a large number of poverty-stricken elderly living under bridges, etc., and dying in the streets would have an impact on my community and therefore my happiness.
 
Old 10-27-2013, 11:39 AM
 
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No telling! Not all states have expanded Medicaid as originally anticipated in the ACA. If ever there was a governmental program initiated while tons of questions remained unanswered as well as unknown, this, unfortunately, seems to be it. The country's first clue should have been the pronouncement that Congress had to pass it in order to know what was in it. Without taking sides, the best I can do is sit back and wait. If it works in the end, so much the better. If it's premises are unrealistic and impossible, perhaps it can be fixed. But my/our concern is for children and grandchildren who will have to deal with it as it is now. As for seniors who don't qualify for Medicare, the uncertainty must be scary.
There are seniors who don't qualify for Medicare? What is necessary to qualify?
 
Old 10-27-2013, 11:47 AM
 
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There are seniors who don't qualify for Medicare? What is necessary to qualify?
It requires participation (paying) in Social Security for 40 quarters (10 years) or at least 10 years of marriage to someone who did. That doesn't include everyone such as some teachers, many in law enforcement, a lot of federal employees, etc.
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