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It will make insurance available at affordable rates for the presently uninsured. And I am very much looking forward to having insurance again after 10 years of going without. And Dr. Carson can take that and stick it wherever he likes.
Yet you spend $105. a month on Cable?
Priorities such as this and thinking people should subsidize bills for others is a crock.
It's going to be a fix for millions of people who can't get insurance right now. The Republicans had 20 years after they shot down Clinton's attempt to reform healthcare and they did absolutely nothing. They had no interest in even addressing the problem. We have the ACA because they made sure that nothing else would pass, so here we are. It's not perfect, but if you have never been without insurance, you don't know what it means to be able to afford it again.
Sorry, but I can't give a doctor, who should know better than anyone the suffering that happens when people can't afford care, a pass for making such a terrible analogy.
The one thing that the anti-ACA people seem to forget is that health insurance was rocketing up every single year. Yes, ACA plans will probably not be as cheap as we'd all like. But when your insurance is going up 50% - 100% year in and out, that's if you don't get dropped, a plan that is more controlled is a good thing.
Our contribution at work went up $900./yr. due to ACA requirements.
We do not have a healthcare problem, we have a health insurance problem. Again, typical so-called liberal propaganda and deceit.
We conservatives felt that fixing the Health Insurance problem was way-beyond the Constitutional confines of the Federal Govt. Constitution gave this Federal Govt certain specific, enumerated, and limited powers. The right to mandate people to buy insurance wasn't one of them.
Conservatives had some proposals, but libs didnt want to hear them since they wouldn't give the Federal Govt the right to control people's lives.
Oh, boo hoo. The Republican controlled White house, house of representatives and Senate from 2001--2007 had all these solutions to health care, but the big mean liberals wouldn't let them get their way.
What a crock.
By the way, health insurance problems ARE health care problems, unfortunately.
What are you, a cow? You can't finish two words without ejaculating?
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The Republican controlled White house, house of representatives and Senate from 2001--2007 had all these solutions to health care, but the big mean liberals wouldn't let them get their way.
Although we are talking about 2008-2009 when healthcare reform was on the table, maybe GOP should have tried to back the Govt the hell out of constricting healthcare market, allow and encourage competition, law reform, etc.
That's another reason conservatives don't like the Bush GOP, who let the field open for Obama to ram Socialistcare.
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By the way, health insurance problems ARE health care problems, unfortunately.
Not really. you can get healthcare without insurance. Many people have. Healthcare is a financial problem, i.e. many people can't afford its crazy pricing. Obamacare makes it even more expensive.
Sorry, but anyone who would declare that a law to provide insurance to the uninsured is the worst thing that ever happened to this country since slavery has lost any credibility he may have had. It's an asinine statement, but it sure played well with the Tea Party crowd. How very sad that he feels the need to denigrate himself to get in good with that worthless bunch.
By the way, my 27 year old daughter is getting a silver plan for $120 a month. That's pretty close to the cost of my cable bill.
Not really. you can get healthcare without insurance. Many people have. Healthcare is a financial problem, i.e. many people can't afford its crazy pricing. Obamacare makes it even more expensive.
Correct! Humans have been getting health care without health insurance from the beginning of time.
Health insurance doesn't lower costs, it actually raises costs and increases consumption. It's amazing how these Big Government Nanny Statists think I can afford to pay for my health care and have money left over to pay for somebody else's health care too.
Here's an incomplete list of things that occurred between the end of slavery, and the passing of the ACA, that are far worse than the ACA
WW1
WW2
The Vietnam War
The Second Iraq War
The Lebanon bombing
Pan-am 103 Bombing
the WTC Bombing
9/11
The Black Codes
Jim Crow
The internment of Japanese-American citizens
the Asian Exclusion Act
the War on Drugs
DADT
DOMA
The Watergate scandal
the Iran-Contra scandal
the Teapot Dome scandal
Hurricane Andrew
Hurricane Katrina
Various major earthquakes
ETA:
The Long Depression
The Panic of 1893
The Great Depression
1970s stagflation
the S&L Crisis
The 2007-8 financial crisis
Dr. Carson apparently needs to read some remedial history books.
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