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Originally Posted by nononsenseguy
Yep. We have to remember: This system was designed by Liberals, and it is being implemented by Liberals, all who are big government bureaucrats.
We don't need anymore information than that.
Criss sakes Faux News Sheep, it's based on a plan that came from the Ultra Conservative Heritage Foundation!
Obama, deep down, wanted to go for Single Payer for all, but he knew, that thanks to the selfishness and the me attitude of America and the shark Insurance Companies, that that would never get off the ground.
Liberal plan my arse.
They don't now. They have handouts promised by a bankrupt government.
Then be responsible and solve your own problems.
Why is "insurance" so important to you? Answer: Because you think it makes someone else pay your bills.
You're trying to say that 145 million of 300 million need the other half to pay their medical services for them. This isn't a viable mechanism. It's a preposterous notion.
Our government is bankrupt because of R. Reagan's supply side tax cuts, GW Bush's supply side tax cuts, and GW Bush's $850 billion dollar for nothing Iraq war.
You asked "Why is "insurance" so important to you?"
Because I was just in a motor bike wreck and I dislocated my clavicle. I was in a ambulance, in a hospital seeing 3 doctors, had 2 CAT scans, had 15 x-rays, and had to take all kinds of pain/muscle relaxer/anti inflammatory medicine.
If I had to pay the full cost of the above hospital visit I would not be happy.
You said "I'm trying to say that 145 million of 300 million need the other half to pay their medical services for them."
And after thinking for a while, that's exactly what I'm saying.
Most of us have friends and family members who don't have health insurance. What happens if our uninsured friends and family get cancer or need a heart operation? (Their family will be forced to pay a $100,000+ hospital bill.)
Republicans believe that people who don't have health insurance "made the wrong choices" (and f. you for even thinking that.) One of my best friends does not have health insurance and he did nothing wrong, uncontrollable circumstances in his life caused him not to have health insurance.
The stupid thing is a lot of republicans don't even have health insurance themselves. And these uninsured republicans don't want the government to buy them health insurance, they prefer for the government to hand out following money instead.
(and what makes this really stupid is that the above $6.6 dollars will go to our national debt, and finance the building of US factories in China.)
Instead of giving the above $6.6 trillion dollars to the rich, why not use that money to (help) pay the medical costs of those people who will see increased premiums from Obamacare. And then use the remaining $6 trillion dollars to pay down the US debt?
BECAUSE.... it is a local and state problem as well..... Healthcare isn't free and people aren't turned down when they need critical care. You can see the problem..... Or maybe you think healthcare costs aren't a burden on city and states.
Our government is bankrupt because of R. Reagan's supply side tax cuts, GW Bush's supply side tax cuts, and GW Bush's $850 billion dollar for nothing Iraq war.
oh please...its the far left fascist/socialist globalists that are responsible for our ills
let this INFORM you, these problems stem from: 1993, 1995, and 1999 and you can thank the liberals for it, and most of it goes back to the clinton era. why because ECONOMICS run in 10(+/-4) year CYCLES and what we are facing NOW is in DIRECT RELATION to what happened back in the 90's
1993 NAFTA-originally pushed by Brzezenski and his puppet carter,,moved along by reagan's VP bush1----negotiated by another brzezenski puppet bush1--- passed in 1993 by the democrat controlled congress, pushed by clinton, signed by clinton-inceased with CAFTA by bush2--the consequence ...... 60+ million HIGH PAYING jobs have been lost, 2 trillion worth of debt from the lost wages.(and obama ahs increased it too, not only as Senateor Obama with OFTA, but also as potus obama..............hmmm)
1995 clinton (through his chief of HUD (Henry Cisneros and later his second chief andrew coumo)) eased the rules on obtaining mortgages allowing more 'exotic' mortgages and 'no-doc/low doc' mortgages-----the consequence ......housing SKYROCKETED causing low inventories causing a 'not normal' increase in home prices, sellers got greedy, buyers got even greedier (looking to PROFIT in a skyrocketing market by flipping) and bought THINKING that prices would still increase and their ADJUSTABLE mortgage would pay it self off in MINIMUMAL years...EVEN THOUGH THESE INCREASES IN HOME VALUES WERE TOTALLY UNHEARD OF, AND MORTGAGE RATES WERE AT 40 YEAR LOWS( what did they think an adjustable mortgage gotten at 40 year lows would do in the term(3 months-3years) when it adjusted...of course it would go up, their CONTRACT even said after the term it would be 6% PLUS PRIME)))
For many potential homebuyers, the lack of cash available to accumulate the required downpayment and closing costs is the major impediment to purchasing a home. Other households do not have sufficient available income to to make the monthly payments on mortgages financed at market interest rates for standard loan terms. Financing strategies, fueled by the creativity and resources of the private and public sectors, should address both of these financial barriers to homeownership."
The above is the start of the mortgage meltdown: Clinton's National Homeownership Strategy
those are the two biggest causes of the great recession
then add these:
1996 clinton signed The Telecommunications Act of 1996 (The Act was claimed to foster competition. Instead, it allowed industry consolidation whose actions reduced the number of major media companies from around 30 in 1993 to 10 in 1996, and reducing the 10 in 1996 to 6 in 2005.) causing MONOPOLIES, which can RAISE PRICES
1998 clinton does not allow drilling for OUR OWN OIL..the liberals say 'it will take ten years before we seee the oil'...guess what its been ten years
1999 Clinton DEREGULATES the banking industry
2000 clinton signs the China trade bill
2000 clinton signs the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000..(which paves the way for ENRON)
2000/1 clinton pushes to get china into the world bank
2002 bush and medicare part d....more big government
2003/4/5 republicans try to reighn in fanny and freddie...the liberal opposition leaders (barney frank and cris Dodd) say "there is nothing wrong with fanny/freddy..its a witch hunt"........boy does barney have egg on his face now
1965 liberals push medicare....say it will only cost 10 billion by 1995....in 1995 it cost 100 billion...in 2010 it cost 500 billion, 2012 it cost 600 billion AND CLIMBING
it aint the gop.....its the liberals that have cost us
carter, bush1, clinton, bush2, obama...all liberal (progressive) globalists
Because I was just in a motor bike wreck and I dislocated my clavicle. I was in a ambulance, in a hospital seeing 3 doctors, had 2 CAT scans, had 15 x-rays, and had to take all kinds of pain/muscle relaxer/anti inflammatory medicine.
If I had to pay the full cost of the above hospital visit I would not be happy.
its your body, its your health, its a service you received..... its your bill....pay your own way, don't expect others to pay for you
oh please...its the far left fascist/socialist globalists that are responsible for our ills
let this INFORM you, these problems stem from: 1993, 1995, and 1999 and you can thank the liberals for it, and most of it goes back to the clinton era. why because ECONOMICS run in 10(+/-4) year CYCLES and what we are facing NOW is in DIRECT RELATION to what happened back in the 90's
1993 NAFTA-originally pushed by Brzezenski and his puppet carter,,moved along by reagan's VP bush1----negotiated by another brzezenski puppet bush1--- passed in 1993 by the democrat controlled congress, pushed by clinton, signed by clinton-inceased with CAFTA by bush2--the consequence ...... 60+ million HIGH PAYING jobs have been lost, 2 trillion worth of debt from the lost wages.(and obama ahs increased it too, not only as Senateor Obama with OFTA, but also as potus obama..............hmmm)
1995 clinton (through his chief of HUD (Henry Cisneros and later his second chief andrew coumo)) eased the rules on obtaining mortgages allowing more 'exotic' mortgages and 'no-doc/low doc' mortgages-----the consequence ......housing SKYROCKETED causing low inventories causing a 'not normal' increase in home prices, sellers got greedy, buyers got even greedier (looking to PROFIT in a skyrocketing market by flipping) and bought THINKING that prices would still increase and their ADJUSTABLE mortgage would pay it self off in MINIMUMAL years...EVEN THOUGH THESE INCREASES IN HOME VALUES WERE TOTALLY UNHEARD OF, AND MORTGAGE RATES WERE AT 40 YEAR LOWS( what did they think an adjustable mortgage gotten at 40 year lows would do in the term(3 months-3years) when it adjusted...of course it would go up, their CONTRACT even said after the term it would be 6% PLUS PRIME)))
For many potential homebuyers, the lack of cash available to accumulate the required downpayment and closing costs is the major impediment to purchasing a home. Other households do not have sufficient available income to to make the monthly payments on mortgages financed at market interest rates for standard loan terms. Financing strategies, fueled by the creativity and resources of the private and public sectors, should address both of these financial barriers to homeownership."
The above is the start of the mortgage meltdown: Clinton's National Homeownership Strategy
those are the two biggest causes of the great recession
then add these:
1996 clinton signed The Telecommunications Act of 1996 (The Act was claimed to foster competition. Instead, it allowed industry consolidation whose actions reduced the number of major media companies from around 30 in 1993 to 10 in 1996, and reducing the 10 in 1996 to 6 in 2005.) causing MONOPOLIES, which can RAISE PRICES
1998 clinton does not allow drilling for OUR OWN OIL..the liberals say 'it will take ten years before we seee the oil'...guess what its been ten years
1999 Clinton DEREGULATES the banking industry
2000 clinton signs the China trade bill
2000 clinton signs the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000..(which paves the way for ENRON)
2000/1 clinton pushes to get china into the world bank
2002 bush and medicare part d....more big government
2003/4/5 republicans try to reighn in fanny and freddie...the liberal opposition leaders (barney frank and cris Dodd) say "there is nothing wrong with fanny/freddy..its a witch hunt"........boy does barney have egg on his face now
1965 liberals push medicare....say it will only cost 10 billion by 1995....in 1995 it cost 100 billion...in 2010 it cost 500 billion, 2012 it cost 600 billion AND CLIMBING
it aint the gop.....its the liberals that have cost us
carter, bush1, clinton, bush2, obama...all liberal (progressive) globalists
occam's razor (definition)- the simplest of two competing theories is to be preferred.
R. Reagan lowered corporate and rich peoples tax rates (he called it supply-side/trickle down economics) These tax cuts created huge deficits/debt, and the following debt history shows these deficits and increased debt. http://www.skymachines.com/US-Nation...ental-Term.htm
Ronald Reagan also wasted huge amounts of money on things like "Star Wars missile defense." (scientists told Reagan it would never work.) This wasted defense money was also added to our deficits/debt as well.
GW Bush did $2.5 trillion dollars in supply side tax cuts. http://www.ctj.org/pdf/bushtaxcuts2013to2022.pdf
And since many of his tax cuts were extended the cost is more than $2.5 trillion dollars.
GW Bush also attacked Iraq in the name of Sept 11, but Iraq had nothing to do with Sept 11. GW Bush wasted $850 billion dollars attacking Iraq. The following debt history clearly shows the deficits/debt that Bush created doing the above 2 things.
its your body, its your health, its a service you received..... its your bill....pay your own way, don't expect others to pay for you
Unless you are on Medicare and then the government will pay for it and you will have 100% support from the Tea Party. Government good=Medicare, Government-Bad ACA
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