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Old 10-14-2013, 11:42 AM
 
Location: texas
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True. But just because Barack Obama proclaims "affordability" does not mean that a government-mandated insurance policy is actually "affordable."

Affordability is relative to the individual and to the family in question. So, if the insurance is still not affordable, and people have to pay a fine because they can't afford the insurance, how does that help the situation? Not only do they not have insurance, they now have fewer dollars to pay for basic life expenses because they now pay a fine.

You understand these very real scenarios, right?
No I dont!

Your senarios are "very real" only if you can point to a very real life case. You yourself use hypotheticals to explain a disastrous senario.


..."Not only do they not have insurance, they now have fewer dollars to pay for basic life expenses because they now pay a fine".

pure conjecture.
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:43 AM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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Funny they want "smaller government" but still want real time reports on the most trivial aspects of ACA. Who's gonna pay for accumulating and processing that information?
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:44 AM
 
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accountabilitry cost money. You want government services. Pay up. Pay your debt bill.
So does a dictionary.

Ah the obtuse argument.

I don't want "Great Society" services. However as a tax payer that has put close to a million into State and Federal coffers over the last 30+ years that I have been paying taxes I demand accountability for any government program.
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:45 AM
 
Location: texas
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There should be plenty of Brownshirts available to track and process the information. But of course Dear Leader doesn't want to confirm what we already know.
if you already know, why do you continuously ask? be satified in your knowledge.
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:46 AM
 
Location: texas
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So does a dictionary.

Ah the obtuse argument.

I don't want "Great Society" services. However as a tax payer that has put close to a million into State and Federal coffers over the last 30+ years that I have been paying taxes I demand accountability for any government program.
you can demand whatever you like...

You may have been paying taxes, but not your cut. we are in debt. Your bill is due.
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:49 AM
 
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True. But just because Barack Obama proclaims "affordability" does not mean that a government-mandated insurance policy is actually "affordable."

Affordability is relative to the individual and to the family in question. So, if the insurance is still not affordable, and people have to pay a fine because they can't afford the insurance, how does that help the situation? Not only do they not have insurance, they now have fewer dollars to pay for basic life expenses because they now pay a fine.

You understand these very real scenarios, right?
affordability is subjective, however to compare out of packet expense for affordable health care premium and or, the fine is nothing compared to the people needing medical care that don't have it now. millions not able to be insured because of caps or pre diagnosed conditions is barbaric at best.
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:52 AM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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it isn't any of your business what's medically wrong with people who sign up.
As long as our tax dollars are being funneled into subsidies used to prop up other people, yes it's plenty of our business. It's easy to explain who is signing up without putting out any personal info on the people.
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:52 AM
 
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you can demand whatever you like...

You may have been paying taxes, but not your cut. we are in debt. Your bill is due.
I've paid my cut and hundreds of others. Price of working hard.

Time to pay for your own mistakes.
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:53 AM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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you can demand whatever you like...

You may have been paying taxes, but not your cut. we are in debt. Your bill is due.
Spoken like a true Democrat.
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Funny they want "smaller government" but still want real time reports on the most trivial aspects of ACA. Who's gonna pay for accumulating and processing that information?
"Who's gonna pay for accumulating and processing that information?"

1. The data is already "accumulated." That's kind of what a database is for. The "hard" part is extracting what you want from it.

2. I'm sure they have a team of database administrators on hand that they're already paying.

If I knew the database schema (and the people who work on it do already know it) and had direct access to the database, I could have the answer to the OP's question in 30 seconds or less. Your response is nothing but a deflection, or simply ignorance of the technology involved.

It costs nothing but a little time to generate a report. There are people that already have the answer to the OP's question. It's a trivial question to answer, if you have access to the data.
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