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Old 10-14-2013, 08:01 PM
 
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It has been announced that those companies that did not follow emergency procedure must pay for the animals who stole with their EBT leech card. Taxpayers are off the hook unless they raise prices of course.
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Old 10-14-2013, 08:04 PM
 
Location: California
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Someone had to manually override something, they are responsible I'd say. You may not like paying.00000001 cent more for your crackers, but that's how it works.
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Old 10-14-2013, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Walmart was either trying to also take advantage of increased sales by allowing excessive spending on the EBT cards............or............Walmart's management are total idiots not questioning the overstuffed shopping carts paid for on the EBT card.
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Old 10-15-2013, 08:31 AM
 
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Someone at Walmart - either in the stores or at corporate - made a bad decision that will end up costing them. Supposedly the recommended procedure is to limit purchases to $50 in the event of the system being down. That doesn't prevent all problems, as what's to stop someone from making several runs at $50 each? Still, it would have shown that they were at least trying to prevent abuse.

What will probably happen is that Walmart will be reimbursed up to $50 per EBT customer during the outage. Of course, the reimbursement will be processed sometime after the shutdown ends. Also, I'd expect whoever made the call to allow the abuse to be out of a job soon, as Walmart will have to eat the cost of the goods sold beyond the emergency limit as well as food that spoiled sitting in carts after the system went back up.

I also predict that the EBT users will find their balances at the next payday to be unaffected, as it will be deemed an inefficient use of limited government resources to track down all of the thieves. Yes, I said thieves, because if you present an instrument for payment that you know does not have sufficient funds, that is what you are.
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Old 10-15-2013, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Is it really that hard to address this? These were electronic cards so there are records of the transactions and who they were issued to. Ban anyone from receiving future EBT cards or payments if they committed fraud during this event. Send the money withheld to the businesses that honored them.

Honestly, it would be better if more businesses simply refused to accept EBT payments in the first place, and only do business with people that actually pay their own bills.
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Old 10-15-2013, 09:07 AM
 
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Walmart was either trying to also take advantage of increased sales by allowing excessive spending on the EBT cards............or............Walmart's management are total idiots not questioning the overstuffed shopping carts paid for on the EBT card.

Naw, some liberal buffoon was trying to score PR points by trying to sound sympathetic.

I'll bet that person learned a really, REALLY eye-opening lesson.
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Old 10-15-2013, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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Honestly, it would be better if more businesses simply refused to accept EBT payments in the first place, and only do business with people that actually pay their own bills.
They'd go out of business. EBT is probably 75% of their sales.
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Old 10-15-2013, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Is it really that hard to address this? These were electronic cards so there are records of the transactions and who they were issued to. Ban anyone from receiving future EBT cards or payments if they committed fraud during this event. Send the money withheld to the businesses that honored them.

Honestly, it would be better if more businesses simply refused to accept EBT payments in the first place, and only do business with people that actually pay their own bills.

There was no fraud. The holders of the EBT cards just bought 6 months of groceries in one trip. I hope they did not buy anything perishable. They won't have any credits on their card unti sometime next year. WalMart better get ready for all the merchandise returns they are about to get by these leeches when they get their notice in the mail.
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Old 10-15-2013, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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There was no fraud. The holders of the EBT cards just bought 6 months of groceries in one trip. I hope they did not buy anything perishable. They won't have any credits on their card unti sometime next year. WalMart better get ready for all the merchandise returns they are about to get by these leeches when they get their notice in the mail.
As long as the system handles it that way, I'm OK. You charged 6 months worth of credits on your EBT card? OK, no new cards or credits till the balance is paid off. You know, just like ADULTS that work for a living that run up a balance on a credit card. Time to treat welfare recipients like adults, rather than children. Actions have consequences.
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Old 10-15-2013, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Northern CA
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They'd go out of business. EBT is probably 75% of their sales.
I read something like 22% but who knows. This is a pretty good video from LA, the first guy has it right, this is a game they are playing to see what happens. I think this was intentional, and only the first time, more blackouts coming. Around 2:30 a man threatens Rodney King syle riots, if EBT cards remain unusable.

» EBT Card Users Threaten Rodney King-Style Riots Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
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