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Old 10-16-2013, 06:30 PM
 
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Debt Ceiling Deniers And Spending Cuts - Business Insider

Until tea party voters and tea party congressman show some balls and cut **** they like, I don't want hear crap about how republicans are the party of fiscal responsibility.
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Old 10-16-2013, 06:32 PM
 
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No argument from me.
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Old 10-16-2013, 06:40 PM
 
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I have been saying this for MONTHS and before anyone says "but, but, but, we *paid* for Medicare" you should read the attached document.


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Old 10-16-2013, 06:42 PM
 
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excuse me? There are a handful of real conservatives. Who the hell says they get any say into cuts?

And need I remind you, who was it that said he would go through the budget line by line? OBAMA. In 2008, its 2013 and he really doesn't intend to fulfill that pledge
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Old 10-16-2013, 06:51 PM
 
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excuse me? There are a handful of real conservatives. Who the hell says they get any say into cuts?

And need I remind you, who was it that said he would go through the budget line by line? OBAMA. In 2008, its 2013 and he really doesn't intend to fulfill that pledge
well according to republicans, obama is nothing but a far-left tax and spend liberal, so who cares what he said about going through the budget line by line. The tea party ran on a platform of cutting spending. If you want to reduce spending, you have to cut the drivers of our debt, Medicare, Medicaid, and social security, and yet tea party congressman have been silent on those issues.
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Old 10-16-2013, 06:53 PM
 
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excuse me? There are a handful of real conservatives. Who the hell says they get any say into cuts?

And need I remind you, who was it that said he would go through the budget line by line? OBAMA. In 2008, its 2013 and he really doesn't intend to fulfill that pledge
Are you talking about the line item veto? The line item veto is unconstitutional until and unless Congress wants to give the president spending authority (and it isn't clear that they can even do that), tthe President doesn't have line item veto power.

Washingtonpost.com: Court Strikes Down Line-Item Veto
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Old 10-16-2013, 06:58 PM
 
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well according to republicans, obama is nothing but a far-left tax and spend liberal, so who cares what he said about going through the budget line by line. The tea party ran on a platform of cutting spending. If you want to reduce spending, you have to cut the drivers of our debt, Medicare, Medicaid, and social security, and yet tea party congressman have been silent on those issues.
SS doesn't actually add to our debt. The way the SSA was written specifically outlaws deficit funding. More specifically, SS can only pay out what they collect in taxes. Currently, SS can cash in treasury bonds to cover the gap, but once those bonds are redeemed the SS pmts can only match SS collections; that's why the SS pmts will be cut by 28% in about 20 years.
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Old 10-16-2013, 07:03 PM
 
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SS doesn't actually add to our debt. The way the SSA was written specifically outlaws deficit funding. More specifically, SS can only pay out what they collect in taxes. Currently, SS can cash in treasury bonds to cover the gap, but once those bonds are redeemed the SS pmts can only match SS collections; that's why the SS pmts will be cut by 28% in about 20 years.
I'm aware that it technically doesn't add to the debt, but because the trust fund has been raided, i assume there are alot of IOU's, but that doesn't matter anyway. The point is, the tea party claims to for reduced spending, but not on **** they like.
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Old 10-16-2013, 07:11 PM
 
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Debt Ceiling Deniers And Spending Cuts - Business Insider

Until tea party voters and tea party congressman show some balls and cut **** they like, I don't want hear crap about how republicans are the party of fiscal responsibility.
The GAO has been submitting reports to 0bama with lots of cutting that could be done, can we at least agree to start there?

GAO Report: Tens of Billions Blown on Duplicate Programs

Here's another report the GAO submitted back in 2011
U.S. GAO - Government Operations: Opportunities to Reduce Potential Duplication in Government Programs, Save Tax Dollars, and Enhance Revenue

Of course, you'd have to stand in opposition to 0bama, because cutting the spending is something he flat out refuses to do, he wants to hit $20 trillion in debt before he leaves office.
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Old 10-16-2013, 07:13 PM
 
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It seems to me the whole precept of the teabagger mentality is that of the squeaky wheel. Squeak loud and long enough and someone will appease you.

Or so the thinking goes. Long way from the actual role of government, which is COMPROMISE and DEBATE.
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