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Old 10-18-2013, 01:04 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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As you know, the Federal Govt hasn't borrowed a penny since last May, when it ran into the Debt Ceiling.

It's been draining retirement accounts, trust funds etc., in an effort to keep the government running and the payments flowing to voters. But those accounts were just about exhausted, and this financial fraud was soon to be exposed publicly.

Two nights ago, Congress finally raised the Debt Ceiling (actually they simply got rid of it completely). This gave them all day yesterday (Oct. 17) to borrow money and repay the accounts they'd been draining.

The Washington Times says that the Treasury Dept. has published a figure of $17.075 trillion for the National Debt as of the close of business yesterday.

To see what a full day of borrowing by the Fed looks like, uninhibited by debt ceilings, after months of prohibition, look at the far right edge of the attached thumbnail graph.

The good news is, this jump, huge though it is (in one day, the Fed govt borrowed more than $1,000 for every man, woman, child, and illegal alien in the country), it's less than half of what was needed to put us back to where we would have been if the rate of borrowing at the beginning of the year, had been continued.

Do you suppose we'll see another similar-sized jump when the figures for today (Friday, Oct. 18) are compiled?
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Old 10-18-2013, 01:05 PM
 
Location: All Over
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shut it down and keep it shutdown, who needs government
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Old 10-18-2013, 01:08 PM
 
Location: planet octupulous is nearing earths atmosphere
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just another case of robbing tom, dick and harry to pay Paul..
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Old 10-18-2013, 01:14 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Rob Peter to pay Paul.
Pretty soon Peter has nothing to take, so Paul votes to rob Peter anyway, as he is still breathing, pis'n and crapping.
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Old 10-18-2013, 01:20 PM
 
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As you know, the Federal Govt hasn't borrowed a penny since last May, when it ran into the Debt Ceiling.

It's been draining retirement accounts, trust funds etc., in an effort to keep the government running and the payments flowing to voters. But those accounts were just about exhausted, and this financial fraud was soon to be exposed publicly.

Two nights ago, Congress finally raised the Debt Ceiling (actually they simply got rid of it completely). This gave them all day yesterday (Oct. 17) to borrow money and repay the accounts they'd been draining.

The Washington Times says that the Treasury Dept. has published a figure of $17.075 trillion for the National Debt as of the close of business yesterday.

To see what a full day of borrowing by the Fed looks like, uninhibited by debt ceilings, after months of prohibition, look at the far right edge of the attached thumbnail graph.

The good news is, this jump, huge though it is (in one day, the Fed govt borrowed more than $1,000 for every man, woman, child, and illegal alien in the country), it's less than half of what was needed to put us back to where we would have been if the rate of borrowing at the beginning of the year, had been continued.

Do you suppose we'll see another similar-sized jump when the figures for today (Friday, Oct. 18) are compiled?
no way, we dont have a spending problem.....quit being a conspiracy theorist. hahaha
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Old 10-18-2013, 01:34 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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just another case of robbing tom, dick and harry to pay Paul..
Pretty much the same thing happened back in 2011, the last time there was a long debt-limit like this.
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Old 10-18-2013, 01:45 PM
 
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just another case of robbing tom, dick and harry to pay Paul..
Add to that, That 85 Billion a Month to the Big Banks has not helped the majority of American's at all.
It is a never ending bailout for their criminal games.
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Old 10-18-2013, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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I see china wants to push and alternate currency. Glad I live in Alaska if that ever happens.
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Old 10-18-2013, 02:03 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Add to that, That 85 Billion a Month to the Big Banks has not helped the majority of American's at all.
It is a never ending bailout for their criminal games.
I can't help but notice that, when the chronic-it's-all-the-banks'-fault posters make pronouncements like these, they never back them up with any figures or references.

Please, please be the first to break that pattern.

Please.
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Old 10-18-2013, 02:09 PM
 
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Social Security payouts, Medicare payouts - not part of the debt numbers.

Estimates I have read now bring the number from $17 trillion - to $126 trillion owed when you add in SS/Medicare.

Fraud.
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