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Old 10-19-2013, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Those high deductible plans were for people who actually desired to go that way, a high deductible with low premiums. Not everyone wanted a high deductible plan. Now 90% of us are forced into higher premiums along with higher deductibles.

Before 0bamaCare it was about the right to choose what was best for you and yours, now it's buy 0bamaCare policies or get punished by the IRS.
LOL, the old "that's different"!

Most people still get their insurance through their employer. Only those who work for companies of fewer than 50 will have to buy individual policies. And who says only 10% can afford more than a bronze plan?

I smell hypocrisy!
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Old 10-19-2013, 06:58 PM
 
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That's right, the Forbes study will be along shortly just wait and see!
Proof that liberals are so damned stupid, they don't even know when they've been had.
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Old 10-19-2013, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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LOL, the old "that's different"!

Most people still get their insurance through their employer. Only those who work for companies of fewer than 50 will have to buy individual policies. And who says only 10% can afford more than a bronze plan?

I smell hypocrisy!
And many small companies are downsizing to less than 50 employees to avoid providing health insurance. Which means people are getting laid off due to the ACA.
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Old 10-19-2013, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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And many small companies are downsizing to less than 50 employees to avoid providing health insurance. Which means people are getting laid off due to the ACA.
Please post some evidence that that is happening.
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Old 10-19-2013, 08:20 PM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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The OP's diagram forgot to list Massachusetts. Hello? We exist out here!
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Old 10-19-2013, 08:50 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Here are some posts, some from well before Obamacare was enacted
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Mandating that ALL individuals buy insurance spreads that cost to those who would ordinarily forego insurance, or only buy catastrophic policies, aka the young and healthy.

Obamacare WILL cost the young and healthy more. Given that Dem voters tend to be younger, have the Dems adequately assessed how willing the young are to pay much more for insurance to subsidize everyone else?
Yes, I warned about that.

Others are now complaining about it :
Obama Prepares To Screw His Base
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Old 10-19-2013, 08:53 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Proof that liberals are so damned stupid, they don't even know when they've been had.
Can't help but agree on that. Some are slowly catching on, though. See my prior post.
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Old 10-19-2013, 08:54 PM
 
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Yes, I warned about that.

Others are now complaining about it :
Obama Prepares To Screw His Base
Yes and No.

There are some young adults (either part time students/part time whatever) who don't make much who live in opt in states who will get free medicaid.

Young adults who are self employed who make over 400% of poverty will get screwed.
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Old 10-19-2013, 08:56 PM
 
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Yes, I warned about that.

Others are now complaining about it :
Obama Prepares To Screw His Base
It has always been clear that ACA provided expanded health care at the cost of forcing the young into the program. Nothing new and actually reasonable. They young would prefer to remain off the system and simply claim human rights when the odds nail them. We really were never willing to let them expire in the ER parking lot.

So certainly not completely fair but less bad than the system the young had going.
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Old 10-19-2013, 09:07 PM
 
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It has always been clear that ACA provided expanded health care at the cost of forcing the young into the program. Nothing new and actually reasonable. They young would prefer to remain off the system and simply claim human rights when the odds nail them. We really were never willing to let them expire in the ER parking lot.

So certainly not completely fair but less bad than the system the young had going.
The issue isn't forcing the young into the system. The issue is forcing the young to pay 2-3x the going rate.
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