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This is a good point but I wonder how many Black students who would have been qualified for elite NYC schools end up going elsewhere?
One would have to do a LOT of research on the various programs, but many local and nationally based NYC organizations have programs such as boarding school or private school full ride scholarships for high school level education in NYC. So the best and brightest black and Hispanics in NYC do have options other than the public selective enrollment schools.
And to Mathguy to who mentioned the NAACP, they are seeking an investigation into how the students are chosen, they are not seeking to deny admission to Asian students. There was an accusation of fraud against the selective enrollment process in that qualified students were not being chosen based on testing but by biased methods, which is why NAACP got involved. FWIW, I am not a huge NAACP supporter, but their legal defense fund LDF and other investigative and legal arms usually seem pretty fair and balanced in regards to their inquiries and history has shown that they have been a champion for many Americans, not just black Americans since the beginning of the LDF.
Let's break this down to simple hard truth, much like going by a single test alone for admission to these elite schools.
China Population: 1,350,000,000
India Population: 1,220,000,000
Total: 2,570,000,000
top 10%: 257,000,000
if only 10% of this top sliver wishes to emigrate to U.S.: 25,700,000
top 10% of U.S.: 31,700,000
We would be dominated within 10 years. You cannot give people from these
countries an advantage just because they reproduced themselves into a planet
wrecking swarm.
Immigrants from both of these places do not reflect the average individual of the home country.
China immigrant average IQ: 106
China average IQ: 100
Indian immigrant average IQ: 109
India average IQ: 81
So you are pitting a educationally capable, thus skewed group of immigrants with a historically poor and disadvantaged group of native blacks and Hispanics. There is also the fact that a very large portion of these immigrants are very new to the city.
These schools serve the entirety of the city, not just a few advantaged groups. Anyway, these schools really would not reflect the needs of the City that is becoming more and more "rich or poor".
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I think the new mayor is more concerned with his own children, rather than what is actually right.
The standardized tests measure what children should know, comprehend and be able to apply at that point of their school level (math, reading, writing, etc.).
The hell with after school sports and program participation...that does not apply on a real life job to a great extent. Maybe it teaches something about team work (but also about forming exclusionary cliques).
What is important in real life work situations are reading, writing, math and science (all that can be applied to technology, engineering and international trade). In my 30 years in business, I never heard of anyone being interested in someone else's after school activities...Perhaps a brief mention of it if they went to the same schools...but it never closed a deal or completed a project.
Standardized testing rewards those who are privileged enough to afford greater help in preparation, those who have a more ideal study environment, those who have never faced discrimination, those with few or no stress or barriers to obstruct preparation, and those who are willing to study ungodly hours at the expense of everything else.
Time to do away from them or minimize their influence. Sounds like progress to me.
Every time I see a message like this I point to the young black woman who was Valedictorian of her class at a local high school where I live, did her homework by candle light many times because her poor mother, who worked two -three jobs, still couldn't afford to pay the light bill. She didn't make excuses like you do below. She studied "ungodly hours" because she chose to succeed unlike so many who make excuses. People don't get what they need, they get what they deserve. She deserved to go to Cornell because she didn't make excuses and still succeeded.
Standardized testing rewards those who are privileged enough to afford greater help in preparation, those who have a more ideal study environment, those who have never faced discrimination, those with few or no stress or barriers to obstruct preparation, and those who are willing to study ungodly hours at the expense of everything else.
Time to do away from them or minimize their influence. Sounds like progress to me.
I think the new mayor is more concerned with his own children, rather than what is actually right.
The standardized tests measure what children should know, comprehend and be able to apply at that point of their school level (math, reading, writing, etc.).
The hell with after school sports and program participation...that does not apply on a real life job to a great extent. Maybe it teaches something about team work (but also about forming exclusionary cliques).
What is important in real life work situations are reading, writing, math and science (all that can be applied to technology, engineering and international trade). In my 30 years in business, I never heard of anyone being interested in someone else's after school activities...Perhaps a brief mention of it if they went to the same schools...but it never closed a deal or completed a project.
DeBlasio's son goes to Brooklyn Tech one of the selective schools in question
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He's right
