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The regressivity (if thats a word?) of their tax structure is sort of two sided because taxes are just HIGH on everyone. The tax wedge is high in general as opposed to being increased substantially for one group. The GINI coefficient is more telling because it tells more about income equality itself, which we are much worse off.
Are veterans who utilize the VA leaches? How about Granny on medicare? How about the orphaned person with down syndrome? How about kidney transplant patients without the means to pay that are eligible for Medicare? What about the municipality that receives grants for a new library?
People in need aren't leaches. No one will deny that abuses exist but to claim that people that are in need are innately leaches simply because they need assistance is just absurd.
Why do people believe that they are entitled to other people's property/money just by their own mere existence?
Nobody prevents you from giving out your personal property or money to help others. Before you ask others to give up their hard earned money, you need to lead by example. How much have you given to others in need personally?
Why do people believe that they are entitled to other people's property/money just by their own mere existence?
Nobody prevents you from giving out your personal property or money to help others. Before you ask others to give up their hard earned money, you need to lead by example. How much have you given to others in need personally?
I donate substantially to the United Way and my local food bank...both money and time.
We have to pay taxes to be members of a functioning society. During the depression we had an ideological shift on what the word "Freedom" really means. Prior to the depression, "Freedom" meant being able to do as you please with nothing to worry about or no one to worry about you...basically uninhibited freedom. After the depression, the word freedom took on a new meaning. Freedom then and now, really means "Freedom FROM worry....or security." Having security is the truest measure of freedom in modern societies.
It really isn't productive to think of a tax as something that is stolen from you, but a price we pay for security. You have to pay a portion of your income so that society may function appropriately. Providing healthcare for our entire citizenry provides the highest level of economic freedom. To provide healthcare is one of the most decent things our country can do for our citizens. Just as providing an exceptional interstate system is a good thing. Monitoring the safety of our food is a good thing. Providing safe flying conditions for our commerican airline infrastructure is a good thing. All of these are funded by the monies that are "stolen" from you.
Would you have it differently? There are lots of countries out there that function in a much more liberatarian way that would probably love to have you.
I just watched the video again for probably the 3rd time and I realize now that Dave Ramsey is probably the most scary and offensive person ever imagined if you're a liberal Democrat.
The facts that Dave points out about spending, saving, income, and living within your means by becoming debt free have got to be seen as the most insane things ever by the typical caged Democrat voter. I can completely see why they would hate and attack him and his message.
+1. I would rep you again if I could.
This is about as lucid and smart a comment as has ever been made on City-Data.
I donate substantially to the United Way and my local food bank...both money and time.
We have to pay taxes to be members of a functioning society. During the depression we had an ideological shift on what the word "Freedom" really means. Prior to the depression, "Freedom" meant being able to do as you please with nothing to worry about or no one to worry about you...basically uninhibited freedom. After the depression, the word freedom took on a new meaning. Freedom then and now, really means "Freedom FROM worry....or security." Having security is the truest measure of freedom in modern societies.
It really isn't productive to think of a tax as something that is stolen from you, but a price we pay for security. You have to pay a portion of your income so that society may function appropriately. Providing healthcare for our entire citizenry provides the highest level of economic freedom. To provide healthcare is one of the most decent things our country can do for our citizens. Just as providing an exceptional interstate system is a good thing. Monitoring the safety of our food is a good thing. Providing safe flying conditions for our commerican airline infrastructure is a good thing. All of these are funded by the monies that are "stolen" from you.
Would you have it differently? There are lots of countries out there that function in a much more liberatarian way that would probably love to have you.
I donate substantially to the United Way and my local food bank...both money and time.
We have to pay taxes to be members of a functioning society. During the depression we had an ideological shift on what the word "Freedom" really means. Prior to the depression, "Freedom" meant being able to do as you please with nothing to worry about or no one to worry about you...basically uninhibited freedom. After the depression, the word freedom took on a new meaning. Freedom then and now, really means "Freedom FROM worry....or security." Having security is the truest measure of freedom in modern societies.
It really isn't productive to think of a tax as something that is stolen from you, but a price we pay for security. You have to pay a portion of your income so that society may function appropriately. Providing healthcare for our entire citizenry provides the highest level of economic freedom. To provide healthcare is one of the most decent things our country can do for our citizens. Just as providing an exceptional interstate system is a good thing. Monitoring the safety of our food is a good thing. Providing safe flying conditions for our commerican airline infrastructure is a good thing. All of these are funded by the monies that are "stolen" from you.
Would you have it differently? There are lots of countries out there that function in a much more liberatarian way that would probably love to have you.
I don't have anything against paying taxes. I do think the current tax system is totally unfair because it heavily favors the poor. Personally, I would like to do away with income tax and replace it with a consumption based tax like Fair Tax.
Back to your argument. When a baby is born with Dawn's syndrome. Who should be responsible? Taxpayers or the parents? If you say taxpayers, then my question to you is why the government should be responsible for YOUR child?
Are you asking for the specific dollar amount? My wife and I donate 5% to the food bank and 5% to the United Way, plus we volunteer for one hour twice a week (Tuesday and Thursday) at the food bank.
I volunteer between 3-5 hours a month (one saturday a month) to the ASPCA in my town as well...usually no money for them though.
Why?
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