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Old 10-20-2013, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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Old 10-20-2013, 03:46 PM
 
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i fear it falls on deaf ears 70ford.
 
Old 10-20-2013, 06:50 PM
 
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i fear it falls on deaf ears 70ford.
No, we're just tired of explaining to the deaf, that entitlement systems create entitlement, which destroys every society with it from the inside out.
 
Old 10-20-2013, 06:58 PM
 
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i fear it falls on deaf ears 70ford.
The deaf ears are the liberal ears. Conservatives do not dispute that there are people in legitimate need of help. Liberals ignore that and portray conservatives as not caring about the poor. Just like liberals consistently ignore the fact that Republicans want to replace Obamacare and instead portray them as wanting to deny healthcare to people. Ignore reality and present a narrative that gives yourself moral superiority and demonizes others - that's liberals.
 
Old 10-20-2013, 07:10 PM
 
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They forgot the Earned Income Credit. What a scam that is.
 
Old 10-20-2013, 07:11 PM
 
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No, we're just tired of explaining to the deaf, that entitlement systems create entitlement, which destroys every society with it from the inside out.
...except the rest of the developed world.
 
Old 10-20-2013, 07:12 PM
 
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I read the whole article. I doubt the RWNJs would make it past the second paragraph before screaming at the top of their lungs, "liberal bias!" without having read THE ENTIRE THING to know it's actually perfectly balanced.
 
Old 10-20-2013, 07:19 PM
 
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The deaf ears are the liberal ears. Conservatives do not dispute that there are people in legitimate need of help. Liberals ignore that and portray conservatives as not caring about the poor. Just like liberals consistently ignore the fact that Republicans want to replace Obamacare and instead portray them as wanting to deny healthcare to people. Ignore reality and present a narrative that gives yourself moral superiority and demonizes others - that's liberals.
Not true. At least not of me. In my ample volunteer work, I see compassion in people from all political stripes.

I am totally open to a comprehensive GOP healthcare plan. You have to admit, we've yet to see one. That is what makes people skeptical. If Republicans would get a real plan together, present it online for public view so we could compare it to O'care, and present it to the administration before negotiating what's already been done, I would totally support it if it is a more workable plan that covers everyone who needs it.

A lot of Dems are feeling sketchy about O'care, too, but we defend it because we're not seeing a concrete alternative and the amped-up rhetoric has circled the wagons. I'm serious about this. I would pull for the best plan no matter who came up with it.
 
Old 10-20-2013, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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No, we're just tired of explaining to the deaf, that entitlement systems create entitlement, which destroys every society with it from the inside out.
On that premise, Canada ought to be a smoking ruin compared to the U.S., and El Salvador ought to be way ahead of us.
 
Old 10-20-2013, 07:26 PM
 
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Not true. At least not of me. In my ample volunteer work, I see compassion in people from all political stripes.

I am totally open to a comprehensive GOP healthcare plan. You have to admit, we've yet to see one. That is what makes people skeptical. If Republicans would get a real plan together, present it online for public view so we could compare it to O'care, and present it to the administration before negotiating what's already been done, I would totally support it if it is a more workable plan that covers everyone who needs it.

A lot of Dems are feeling sketchy about O'care, too, but we defend it because we're not seeing a concrete alternative and the amped-up rhetoric has circled the wagons. I'm serious about this. I would pull for the best plan no matter who came up with it.
And this is the root of the problem. Liberals believe that we need government interference in health care in order to make it affordable. What they fail to realize - or at least fail to admit - is that it was government interference in health care which made it unaffordable in the first place. What we actually need is to limit government involvement in health care and allow the free market to work, rather than letting government have even more involvement and bogging down the system more.
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