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Old 10-21-2013, 10:38 AM
 
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No, it doesn't. Only in a warped mind would your logic make sense.
Ted Cruz and his supporters are the ones with the warped mind. By the way, where did you get your law degree? Like I said, he CHOSE to represent those clients. No one forced him.

 
Old 10-21-2013, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Stasis
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The right attacked John Edwards for the cases he took - and he represented "the little guy" against big business.
 
Old 10-21-2013, 10:48 AM
 
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An attorney is supposed to uphold the law and works to ensure that a defendant gets a fair trial. He doesn't have to refuse a case. He has to defend an accused under the law.
And an attorney can choose who to represent or who not to. An attorney can refuse any case he or she chooses to. An attorney also has an obligation of ethical responsibility to their client and society as a whole. He chose to take these cases, just like any other attorney he can refuse.
 
Old 10-21-2013, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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He fought to defend shady practices of big business!







Was Cruz more concerned with the hours he could bill for a case than questions of right or wrong?

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/polit...te-in-2012.ece
Be afraid. Be very afraid!

Oh, wait! You already are!!!

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I think we have a new sickness Cruz derangement syndrome
Yep. One of many! Not much will ever top Palin derangement syndrome, though. That's always good for a belly full of laughs.
 
Old 10-21-2013, 10:50 AM
 
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Since when do the alleged actions of an attorney's clients represent the kind of person the attorney himself is? This has to be, without a doubt, the most ignorant attack I've ever seen on this forum and of course it's from none other than the left attacking someone on the right.

If attorneys only defended good, upstanding people there would be a ton of lawyer-less people on trial in this country.
 
Old 10-21-2013, 10:51 AM
 
Location: S.E. US
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Edwards didn't always defend the "little guy". He didn't build his fortune from those kinds of cases.

There's a reason lawyers are called a number of unflattering names. It all depends on who defends whom against whom for what reason(s). If we are in favor, we cheer them on. If not, we don't hesitate to criticize.

It's clear that personal prejudices play a big part in this. Those who hate Cruz will find any reason to keep doing so. They are incapable of viewing him objectively.

Upholding the law is a virtue. As the previous poster said, "If attorneys only defended good, upstanding people there would be a ton of lawyer-less people on trial in this country."
 
Old 10-21-2013, 10:52 AM
 
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And an attorney can choose who to represent or who not to. An attorney can refuse any case he or she chooses to. An attorney also has an obligation of ethical responsibility to their client and society as a whole. He chose to take these cases, just like any other attorney he can refuse.
So are you saying that some people (of your choosing) aren't worthy of good representation during a trial?
 
Old 10-21-2013, 10:55 AM
 
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There is certainly nothing to be afraid of, anymore. He did some damage and shook things up a bit, but it won't happen again and he certainly will never be POTUS. I live in Texas and he's an embarrassment. Anyone who thinks he has a chance probably thought Romney would win the last election or that Sarah Palin would be the first woman POTUS. Snow balls chance in hell.
 
Old 10-21-2013, 10:55 AM
 
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He fought to defend shady practices of big business!

Was Cruz more concerned with the hours he could bill for a case than questions of right or wrong?

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/polit...te-in-2012.ece
So how does our legal system operate now? Do we accuse someone of wrong doing, and then move directly to sentencing and punishment?

Even if someone is guilty, they deserve a fair trial to define exactly which charges are true, which are false, which are exaggerated, and which had extenuating circumstances which might warrant mitigating or reducing punishment.

This seems to be how it goes in your head. A person is accused of embezzlement, they go ask a lawyer to represent them, and the lawyer refuses because, well.... the person is accused of embezzlement, duh.
 
Old 10-21-2013, 11:04 AM
 
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An attorney is supposed to uphold the law and works to ensure that a defendant gets a fair trial. He doesn't have to refuse a case. He has to defend an accused under the law. Thank goodness that is our system, instead of lawyers deciding guilt ahead of time. That's for a judge and/or jury to do.
I think that is the point. Mr Cruz chose to represent his client, not because he was a public defender, but because his client was a paying customer.

Lets not opperate in the fog of "rights of the accused". His choice of his clients were his and not mandated by the court or the constitution.
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