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Our modern conveniences rely on government support. The government ought to be more careful about overreaching itself, but have you ever safely ingested medicine, attended primary or high school, driven on a road, or used the internet? You have the government to thank for that.
As for Benghazi, Congress stripped funding for security, not Obama.
There are many programs the gov't needs to do and does so today. But, you don't need entire Agency's to do so.
"attended primary or high school" What does the federal gov't have to do with local schools other then to interfere on states rights issues?
"As for Benghazi, Congress stripped funding for security, not Obama" But, Obama signed it. Sorry, the buck stops at the President.
So because Republicans are big spenders and debt accumulators, it's ok for Democrats to do the same thing?
At what point do we have too much debt? How many trillions of dollars? Will that number fluctuate based on the political party of the guy in charge?
And now the true test of your integrity: If McCain had won in '08, would you be so dismissive of the debt, if it were at the same level, or would you be railing against the Republican in the white house for spending so much?
So spending is out of control, and both parties are to blame. Do we agree on that, at least?
Assuming you answered yes, then what would you say would be wrong with a bunch of citizens coalescing into loosely organized groups and demanding that the government scale back the insanity? Doesn't that sound like a good idea? Clearly, the politicians aren't going to do it on their own. They need motivation. They need to know that we, collectively, think that their spending is out of control, and if they don't knock it off, they're going to lose their jobs, and subsequently, their power.
Sounds reasonable, doesn't it?
Sure, except the only thing you guys are interested in is Tea Party obstructionist tactics.
That and race baiting.
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........and the corruptness and incompetence just keeps getting applauded.
Obama has made an ass out of his supporters.
Yep... just like when you were applauding Bush's failed wars.
And how has he made an ass out of his supporters? Uhhh...we voted for the guy that WON. You didn't.
Take the billions the Fed is pumping into it and watch your charts blow around the room like a balloon that had it's air released.
Aggregate demand must be high for the economy to run. When one end falls...the other must support it. There's nothing wrong with public expenditure to create sufficient demand...which it is. Reference the chart.
Bush/Cheney Administration ... were incompetent, corrupt, and an international embarrassment. Obama has much more class.
Those points are debatable, but what's unquestionably true is that the leaders of other countries around the world had a lot more respect for Bush than they do for Obama.
As far as geopolitics goes, I'd MUCH rather have a leader that is respected around the world than one who isn't, but is "classier." Class doesn't mean much to the likes of Maduro or Ahmadinejad. Strength does, and Obama is weak. Very weak. He radiates it like a wet kitten.
Sure, except the only thing you guys are interested in is Tea Party obstructionist tactics.
That and race baiting.
I'm interested in "obstructionist tactics"? Could you give me your own interpretation of what the hell you're talking about, instead of a two word talking point that you got in an email from Harry Reid?
And what are you talking about with "race baiting"? It's the opposition to those of us who want to see fedgov stop spending like drunken sailors that are always bringing up race. Fiscal sanity has nothing to do with race.
Oh yeah, and you never answered the question. I'll repost it so you don't have to go find it:
If McCain had won in '08, would you be so dismissive of the debt, if it were at the same level, or would you be railing against the Republican in the white house for spending so much?
The labor participation rate is the lowest its been since 1979.
In from July to August, according to BLS, Americans not participating in the labor force climbed from 89,957,000 to 90,473,000, pushing past 90,000,000 for the first time, with a one month increase of 516,000. In September, it climbed again to 90,609,000, an increase of 136,000 during the month. In January 2009, when President Barack Obama took office, there were 80,507,000 Americans not in the labor force. Thus, the number of Americans not in the labor force has increased by 10,102,000 during Obama's presidency.
I'm interested in "obstructionist tactics"? Could you give me your own interpretation of what the hell you're talking about, instead of a two word talking point that you got in an email from Harry Reid?
And what are you talking about with "race baiting"? It's the opposition to those of us who want to see fedgov stop spending like drunken sailors that are always bringing up race. Fiscal sanity has nothing to do with race.
Why discuss policy when you can play the race card?
The labor participation rate is the lowest its been since 1979.
In from July to August, according to BLS, Americans not participating in the labor force climbed from 89,957,000 to 90,473,000, pushing past 90,000,000 for the first time, with a one month increase of 516,000. In September, it climbed again to 90,609,000, an increase of 136,000 during the month. In January 2009, when President Barack Obama took office, there were 80,507,000 Americans not in the labor force. Thus, the number of Americans not in the labor force has increased by 10,102,000 during Obama's presidency.
The decline in the labor force participation rate due to the baby boom generation reaching or approaching retirement age was predicted many years ago. The majority of those not participating are retired.
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