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Old 10-27-2013, 09:21 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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I noted how some countries with a high tax rate were cherry picked to make a point.
Find a country that has national healthcare and a progressive tax system.

 
Old 10-27-2013, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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While lifting up the majority who don't. I hear you, brother. Glad we see this eye to eye.
lols.

 
Old 10-27-2013, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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awe. a blog. and from an american newspaper. aren't you just precious.
Aren't you? I guess you failed to note that the data came from the International Federation of health Plans. The author didn't pull it out of his a$$.
 
Old 10-27-2013, 10:12 AM
 
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Aren't you? I guess you failed to note that the data came from the International Federation of health Plans. The author didn't pull it out of his a$$.
yup. I've heard of that. sounds legit.
 
Old 10-27-2013, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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yup. I've heard of that. sounds legit.
Have it your way. American medical costs are reasonable and affordable. Why, they're actually cheaper than the medical costs of other countries! Nothing to see here; move along.
Better?
 
Old 10-27-2013, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Instead of moaning about the content of my posts, how about putting up data that shows how I'm wrong? I'll wait.
 
Old 10-27-2013, 10:19 AM
 
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National health care hasn't worked in any other country, so why should the USA be any different?

Let's face it. We can't have national health care because it would be an utter failure. We have no idea how to run it, nor could we. We just don't have what it takes to make it work. Canada, Japan, Germany, Britain and France. They have it. And you know what happened to their societies, right? Complete and uttter chaos. Anarchy. War in the streets. The gibbering maniacal mumblings of crazed social welfare victims litters the air.

But America, we got it covered. We have some of the most advanced care in the world. If you can get into the system, that is. Otherwise, you're dead. Or you might wish you were dead. So, here's to America. The land where we don't need that national health care crap, because, hey, we're better than that. Our system is much better than anyone else's, and so cheap, too.

People will tell you, "OH!! But it's rationed!" "THAT SUCKS!!!! MAN!!!!" Yeah, it is rationed. Yeah, and sometimes, there ain't enough to go around so everyone can get everything they ever want - or need. But you do get some. Everybody gets some. You don't get turned away. "Plan? What plan? Oh sorry, we don't service you, go across town." Imagine never having to hear that, again.

It's pretty obvious we can't handle it,though. Just like every other country that ever tried.
They all failed. Every one of them has caused rationing and costs the free market would have solved. They are ALL failures.
 
Old 10-27-2013, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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They all failed. Every one of them has caused rationing and costs the free market would have solved. They are ALL failures.
Insurance companies don't ration, nosiree bob!
 
Old 10-27-2013, 10:22 AM
 
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Have it your way. American medical costs are reasonable and affordable. Why, they're actually cheaper than the medical costs of other countries! Nothing to see here; move along.
Better?
How about you prove that the "international federation of health plans" is truly an objective authority... Oh, wait, you didn't do that.

You used the 'appeal to authority' fallacy...

Argument from authority - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Old 10-27-2013, 10:23 AM
 
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Insurance companies don't ration, nosiree bob!
No, they do not. In NO CASE do insurance companies EVER have control over the supply or availability of any medical product, supply, or service.
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