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Old 10-25-2013, 04:30 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Igor Volsky reporting a bit of History ... Say, some of these names look familiar now..
REP. JOE BARTON (R-TX): “This is a huge undertaking and there are going to be glitches. My goal is the same as yours: Get rid of the glitches. The committee will work closely with yourself and Dr. Mark McClellan at CMS to get problems noticed and solved.” [Barton Statement via Archive.org, 2/15/2006]
REP. TIM MURPHY (R-PA): “Any time something is new, there is going to be some glitches. All of us, when our children were new, well, we knew as parents we didn’t exactly know everything we were doing and we had a foul-up or two, but we persevered and our children turned out well. No matter what one does in life, when it is something new in learning the ropes of it, it is going to take a little adjustment.” [Murphy Floor Speech via Congressional Record, 4/6/2006]
REP. MICHAEL BURGESS (R-TX): “We can’t undo the past, but certainly they can make the argument that we are having this hearing a month late and perhaps we are, but the reality is the prescription drug benefit is 40 years late and seniors who signed up for Medicare those first days back in 1965 when they were 65 years of age are now 106 years of age waiting for that prescription drug benefit, so I hope it doesn’t take us that long to get this right and I don’t believe that it will. And I do believe that fundamentally it is a good plan.” [“Medicare Part D: Implementation of the New Drug Benefit,” 3/1/2006]
REP. PHIL GINGREY (R-GA): “I delivered 5,200 babies, but this may be the best delivery that I have ever been a part of, Mr. Speaker, and that is delivering, as I say, on a promise made by former Congresses and other Presidents over the 45-year history of the Medicare program, which was introduced in 1965 with no prescription drug benefit. And what we have done here is add part D, the ‘D’ for ‘drug’ or, if you want, the ‘delivery’ that we have finally provided to our American seniors.” [Gingrey Floor Speech via Congressional Record, 4/6/06]

Under Bush, Republicans Vigorously Defended Health Care Reform Despite Serious Glitches | ThinkProgress
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Old 10-25-2013, 05:16 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Given the size of the government and the responsibilities of the President, any President ... it's foolish for someone (not referring to you) to suggest the President should have or would have known the details of the status of the website. The Secretary of the particular department and those in the department whose job it is to manage this particular phase of the legislation will have to provide answers. Those who attack the President on this issue do so for reasons other than the ACA. It's just one more opportunity, right or wrong, to criticize him.

So it's George Tenet's fault we didn't find WMDs in Iraq?
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Old 10-25-2013, 05:40 AM
 
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It's hilarious that the Bots are still coming up with excuses for their messiah.

You guys are like the Manson girls: "But he really IS Jesus."
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Old 10-25-2013, 06:07 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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There are people who lost their insurance because of Obamacare, now they can't signup. More uninsured people.
For all their wailing and hand-wringing over "the uninsured" , Obama and the Dems in typical liberal fashion manage to make things even worse.

Thomas Sowell could have told us all this was going to happen:


Thomas Sowell - The Vision of the Anointed - YouTube
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Old 10-25-2013, 06:09 AM
 
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What about the states that did the right thing and set up their own exchanges and websites so their uninsured wouldn't have to use the federal website? If you can damn the feds for being incompetent should you not also praise the responsible states who put their citizens before ideology?
Tell me how and adding hundreds of billions of dollars onto the state liabilities which thus need to be paid for by the citizens, equal putting the citizens first?

According to that thought process, states with the highest tax obligations and the most welfare, should be praised for doing the best job..

Really?
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Old 10-25-2013, 06:11 AM
 
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Relax petch its a mere computer glitch, it'll get sorted, in the mean time people can just use the phone number provided to get info or sign up.
https://www.healthcare.gov/contact-us/
Then why are insurance cancellation notices going out by the millions?
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Old 10-25-2013, 06:15 AM
 
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Healthcare insurance expires on an annual basis. This is the time, insurers take the opportunity to not renew insurance for those who developed defined medical conditions during the current year.

As of right now, those with expiring insurance have until 12/15 to buy insurance to be covered 1/1/14.

How many people do you know who pay a bill 7.5 weeks before its due?
one insurance company sent cancellation notices to 40% of their customers.. Do you think that many have developed medical conditions? What happened to that pre-existing condition clause in the law? I see a lot of excuses, none of which make sense..

Whats it feel like to need to defend the President on such failures?
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Old 10-25-2013, 06:18 AM
 
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More likely these are problems with performance tuning, and bottlenecks could be anywhere in the software architecture!

This is a result of poor capacity analysis, integration and stress/load testing. Not so much programming, but configuration.
Thats completely and totally wrong..

Even the software architectures of healthcare.gov acknowledges that adding more capacity wont fix the problems.

Analysis: IT experts question architecture of Obamacare website | Reuters
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Old 10-25-2013, 06:19 AM
 
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I have to laugh at these hypocritical wingers who are complaining about the ACA and its web site. Every last one of you said Obamacare was a bad idea. And now you're mad because the web site doesn't work? I thought you wanted to see it fail. Why the anger?
So you think its a good idea that millions are losing their health insurance and unable to obtain new policies?

Most people with a brain seen this coming and we're mad that stupid people ignored the warnings...
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Old 10-25-2013, 06:21 AM
 
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The problem with any program is that they always ignore "worst case situations". Like the CBO estimating the ACA will cost 900 billion. We all know that's a bogus number.

You cannot paint a rosy picture on any programs. At least with private businesses, they have to project out worst case scanerios or else they go bankrupt.

Government doesn't do that. If the feds assumed only 5 states would need the exchanges, then someone in the administration should have designed a website that was worst case and that all 50 states would need the exchange.
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