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Old 10-28-2013, 08:32 PM
 
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Ladies and gentlement, here we have a prime example of brain dead Democrats..

MILLIONS are losing their policies.. but somehow, more will have insurance..
Yea pretty sad isn't it. I just saw another democrat trying to defend it by saying yes millions are losing their insurance but there are millions who didn't have insurance who now have insurance.

Obviously the people who pay the bill don't matter.
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Old 10-28-2013, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Ladies and gentlement, here we have a prime example of brain dead Democrats..

MILLIONS are losing their policies.. but somehow, more will have insurance..
What is the normal amount of policy turnover in the industry?

I know I have not had the same policy/plan for more then a few years (and I've been with the same insurance company since the 70's) without it being eliminated (aka cancelled) and replaced with some other plan/policy that the company offered. Sometimes better, sometimes not, but always more expensive.

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Old 10-29-2013, 04:21 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Anyone who is pushing a national health care plan is indeed a brain-dead communist and enemy of the US Constitution. That includes all liberal freaks who actually made it law and continue to support such an abomination. You already claimed ownership, and the purely partisan vote by the Democrats in March 2010, proved that liberal freaks own it lock, stock, and barrel.
Countries that have adopted national health care plans have lower costs and better medical outcomes. Those countries are also every bit democracies as we are. If you think that's communism, so be it.
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Old 10-29-2013, 04:31 AM
 
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Countries that have adopted national health care plans have lower costs and better medical outcomes. Those countries are also every bit democracies as we are. If you think that's communism, so be it.
Maybe some day we will enact national health care.
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Old 10-29-2013, 04:51 AM
 
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I think this falls into, "It is for your own good.", vein of arguments...which why I lied; repeatedly. Trust me, I know better. Just take it easy little lady, I'm here. But, honey, I just hit you to teach you a lesson. It won't happen again.

Got news for you. We are not a democracy. We are a Constitutional Republic. Huge difference.
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Countries that have adopted national health care plans have lower costs and better medical outcomes. Those countries are also every bit democracies as we are. If you think that's communism, so be it.
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Old 10-29-2013, 05:36 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Countries that have adopted national health care plans have lower costs and better medical outcomes. Those countries are also every bit democracies as we are. If you think that's communism, so be it.
Not according to reality. Every European nation has runaway debt as a result of their socialist policies. They are closing hospitals, cutting services, and gutting as much of the over-priced social programs as possible before they end up like Greece, or worse.

Those European nations to which you refer also do not have a constitution that limits their federal government, the US does.

It will become communism when the government owns all private property. As Karl Marx said, socialism is merely the first step toward the ultimate goal of communism. During fiscal year 1988 the US crossed that line and became a socialist nation, when the combined federal social spending exceeded 50% of the entire federal budget. The Affordable Health Care Act of 2010 will be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

In the irrational drive by liberal freaks to become just like Europe they have failed to comprehend the depth of their costly mistakes.
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Old 10-29-2013, 05:39 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Not according to reality. Every European nation has runaway debt as a result of their socialist policies. They are closing hospitals, cutting services, and gutting as much of the over-priced social programs as possible before they end up like Greece, or worse.

Those European nations to which you refer also do not have a constitution that limits their federal government, the US does.

It will become communism when the government owns all private property. As Karl Marx said, socialism is merely the first step toward the ultimate goal of communism. During fiscal year 1988 the US crossed that line and became a socialist nation, when the combined federal social spending exceeded 50% of the entire federal budget. The Affordable Health Care Act of 2010 will be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

In the irrational drive by liberal freaks to become just like Europe they have failed to comprehend the depth of their costly mistakes.
I wonder if folks like MTA want us to incorporate Europe's penchant for war (far greater than the US's), xenophobic and anti-immigration practices? Probably thinks we can just cherry pick what's "good" about Europe without getting any of the bad.
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Old 10-29-2013, 05:50 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Default 1.5 million Americans lose health insurance due to Obamacare

By merely adding up recent media reports, the National Center for Public Policy Research discovered that 1.5 million insurance cancellations have already gone out. These cancellations are all due to the ObamaCare mandate that requires every health insurance policy meet a minimum requirement of a one-size-fits-all Cadillac plan that forces people to pay for coverage they neither want nor need.
During his sales job to pass his signature health insurance plan, President Obama repeatedly and without qualification promised the American people that if you liked your insurance plan, you could keep it. Obama also promised everyone that their premiums would decrease and that he would never raise taxes on the middle class.
Already 1.5 million have had insurance they were happy with stripped from them. If the Congressional Budget Office is correct, this will happen to millions more.
That is one broken promise.
Sunday, the LA Times reported that middle-class Californians face, on average, a 30% rate increase "due to several factors ties to" ObamaCare. That is just one state, and it is another broken promise.
One could also argue that these premium increases are nothing more than tax increases to pay for ObamaCare. So that is another broken promise.
Finally, how many of the millions losing the health care plan they like will lose their doctor in the process? That is yet another broken promise.

Nearly 1.5 Million Lose Health Insurance Due to ObamaCare
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Old 10-29-2013, 05:52 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I think our employer, a Fortune 500 is slated to be a poster child for transitioning people to Obamacare. I think it would be a big mistake considering it would cause mass migration of highly qualified software folks who can pretty much work at the employer of their choice.
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Old 10-29-2013, 06:02 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Countries that have adopted national health care plans have lower costs and better medical outcomes. .
Another lie. Get your facts correct before posting.
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