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Well, that would cause a lot of problems. When projects are engineered, the engineers assume that the builders will have access to modern machinery. Modifying plans to have people with hand-tools scrambling around the site creates major safety problems. The government would also be on the hook for all the resulting work-related injuries. And the project itself would become massively more expensive.
It would end up being much cheaper for taxpayers to simply shell out for welfare than use such a convoluted workaround to try and hide the fact that the labor was just welfare in another guise.
I don't think you could put unskilled welfare recipients on any big engineering project but the government provides for their health care anyhow.
It's not so much that it wouldn't be a welfare program but it would fit the purpose of having welfare be more temporary and also the fact is that performing some kind of work and being productive benefits people far more than just warehousing them and letting them be permanently useless to society.
After the Great Depression, we did not have a large and growing welfare class. Once the jobs opened up, even those in FDR's programs and projects were able to jump right into those jobs.
It's especially important to have young males kept busy. The problem in the inner cities is that too many youth have nothing to do. Every day is like the day before, it's 24-7 monotony and that gets them into trouble.
And they actually did some good projects during the Great Depression. There is much work that can be done that requires few skills -- highway clean-up, planting of trees, graffitti removal, painting of old buildings, some of our cities are looking very shabby, especially where most people are on welfare.
Work is good for people. It's energizing. It gets them out of their houses and around other people.
Career work is energizing and good for people. Menial drudgery is energizing only in the short term and is not good for people or sustainable long term.
Career work is energizing and good for people. Menial drudgery is energizing only in the short term and is not good for people or sustainable long term.
What is menial drudgery?
All work is better than laying around never doing anything with yourself. Elderly people who get out and shovel their own driveways or rake their leaves, plant a garden would be doing "menial drudgery" but are better off than elderly laying around in nursing homes. Work -- any kind of work, mental or physical work is good for you. Physical exertion keeps your circulation going, keeps your muscles and bones strong. Laying around causes atrophy.
I think there probably would be less welfare and more "workfare" if the Gov put a tariff on the products made overseas. As it is, we can't compete with the extremely low wages paid overseas by extremely greedy corporations. Some of the largest corporations..General Electric, Caterpillar, Microsoft, Walmart, Chevron, Cisco, Intel, United Technologies, Stanley Works, and Merck cut their workforces by 2.9 million jobs in the last decade while hiring 2.4 million (very low paid) people overseas...for that reason alone, I feel welfare is the least we can do for those who've lost their jobs.
It would be similar to the CCC during the Depression and I think most right wingers would decry it as some type of "forced labor" and/or communism/socialism/fascism.
It would be similar to the CCC during the Depression and I think most right wingers would decry it as some type of "forced labor" and/or communism/socialism/fascism.
Working for what you want is a conservative notion.
The idea that the taxpayers must work extra hours and lose more of their paychecks to support the growing bum class is socialism/fascism.
I think there probably would be less welfare and more "workfare" if the Gov put a tariff on the products made overseas. As it is, we can't compete with the extremely low wages paid overseas by extremely greedy corporations. Some of the largest corporations..General Electric, Caterpillar, Microsoft, Walmart, Chevron, Cisco, Intel, United Technologies, Stanley Works, and Merck cut their workforces by 2.9 million jobs in the last decade while hiring 2.4 million (very low paid) people overseas...for that reason alone, I feel welfare is the least we can do for those who've lost their jobs.
Where do you get the idea that there are no tariffs?
There have ALWAYS been tariffs (import duties) on products imported from overseas. One of the causes of the Revolution were the high tariffs the British put on goods imported to the colonies.
There is a 3500+ page book called the Harmonized Tariff Schedule of the United States used to determine duty rates. I'm a licensed customs broker (licensed by U.S. Customs to clear imported goods through Customs for third parties), so I deal with the HTS many times daily.
This is the HTSUS.Pick a chapter and have a gander at it.
For the record, import duties and associated fees and taxes are the second largest source of income for the federal gov't. For that reason, CBP was one of the least affected federal agencies during the shutdown.
Idea 1. Cities and states grow and infrastructure needs change. Diverting money federal money away from a city/state's top priorities into lower priorities is, by definition, a waste of money. There are already many high speed trains in the country that make business life a lot easier. You obviously don't seem to know about this, but then again, I'm guessing you're not in the workforce yet.
Idea 2. This is not an issue. You don't have some homeless guy bidding to build bridges. You don't understand how any of this works, so you shouldn't be making any suggestions in this regard. Go read some books.
Idea 3. A company, instead of using seasoned, experienced, qualified workers that it knows and has trained, it should employ less productive people from a list given to it by the state? That's the dumbest idea of the 4. That's like asking your plumber to wire your house. That's not to mention that there are already qualified people who can't find jobs as it is, so there would be no real net benefit.
Idea 4. There's ALREADY citizen oversight into this. That you don't know about it just makes you look ignorant. Go hit the library and learn how all of this stuff works.
Less posting, more reading.
Casey B. I dont find Remo's post rude. I find it to be a typical response. "you have no idea of what you speak...but Im not gonna offer any alternate suggestions".
Where do you get the idea that there are no tariffs?
There have ALWAYS been tariffs (import duties) on products imported from overseas. One of the causes of the Revolution were the high tariffs the British put on goods imported to the colonies.
There is a 3500+ page book called the Harmonized Tariff Schedule of the United States used to determine duty rates. I'm a licensed customs broker (licensed by U.S. Customs to clear imported goods through Customs for third parties), so I deal with the HTS many times daily.
This is the HTSUS.Pick a chapter and have a gander at it.
For the record, import duties and associated fees and taxes are the second largest source of income for the federal gov't. For that reason, CBP was one of the least affected federal agencies.
Just in case I ever want to import one, what's the tariff on a nuclear reactor?
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