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Old 10-27-2013, 10:28 AM
 
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Perhaps take a little from the 51 billion for the 'black ops budget'?

Hey Congress, use the money we pay in taxes to do something to help us for a change. It wouldn't really be 'free' healthcare since WE PAID FOR IT.

That would REDUCE the healthcare cost for everyone across the board, because then the healthcare companies would only be liable for insuring up to the 'max out of pocket'. Oh, they would love to take the reduced liability and maintain the current rates, but let's add a government option just to keep them honest.

Well, this would have been a great way to go, but just the opposite has been effected.

https://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/04/13-4

See for Yourself: The Pentagon's $51 Billion 'Black' Budget | Danger Room | Wired.com

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Old 10-27-2013, 10:37 AM
 
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How much healthcare will $51B buy?

Let's see you do the math.

I'll even help you get started. Here is some basic data on what the Feds spend today on healthcare:

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Three health insurance programs — Medicare, Medicaid, and the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) — together accounted for 21 percent of the budget in 2012, or $732 billion. Nearly two-thirds of this amount, or $472 billion, went to Medicare, which provides health coverage to around 48 million people who are over the age of 65 or have disabilities. The remainder of this category funds Medicaid and CHIP, which in a typical month in 2012 provided health care or long-term care to about 60 million low-income children, parents, elderly people, and people with disabilities. Both Medicaid and CHIP require matching payments from the states.
http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=1258

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Old 10-27-2013, 10:42 AM
 
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Perhaps take a little from the 51 billion for the 'black ops budget'?

Hey Congress, use the money we pay in taxes to do something to help us for a change. It wouldn't really be 'free' healthcare since WE PAID FOR IT.

That would REDUCE the healthcare cost for everyone across the board, because then the healthcare companies would only be liable for insuring up to the 'max out of pocket'. Oh, they would love to take the reduced liability and maintain the current rates, but let's add a government option just to keep them honest.

Well, this would have been a great way to go, but just the opposite has been effected.

https://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/04/13-4

See for Yourself: The Pentagon's $51 Billion 'Black' Budget | Danger Room | Wired.com
Socialism for everyone!!!
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Old 10-27-2013, 11:04 AM
 
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How much healthcare will $51B buy?

Let's see you do the math.

I'll even help you get started. Here is some basic data on what the Feds spend today on healthcare:

Policy Basics: Where Do Our Federal Tax Dollars Go? — Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

Let me help YOU with the math - what does 58% of 3 trillion equate to?

Defense Spending Is Much Greater than You Think: more than $1Trillion a year | Wake-up Call


When it comes to discretionary spending, Congress gives 58% to the military vs 5% for healthcare. Here are US budget charts for the years 2009 and 2010, according to the National Priorities Project (NPP):

More than 50% of US Government Spending Goes to the Military | Global Research
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Old 10-27-2013, 11:06 AM
 
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Let me help YOU with the math - what does 58% of 1 trillion equate to?

Defense Spending Is Much Greater than You Think: more than $1Trillion a year | Wake-up Call


When it comes to discretionary spending, Congress gives 58% to the military vs 5% for healthcare. Here are US budget charts for the years 2009 and 2010, according to the National Priorities Project (NPP):

More than 50% of US Government Spending Goes to the Military | Global Research
I see you can't answer the question.

Your government school didn't teach you basic arithmetic for a reason.
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Old 10-27-2013, 11:14 AM
 
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I see you can't answer the question.

Your government school didn't teach you basic arithmetic for a reason.
I graduated from IIT, which for your enlightenment, is not a 'government school', and perhaps a tad better than your GED certificate.
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Old 10-27-2013, 11:16 AM
 
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I graduated from IIT, which for your enlightenment, is not a 'government school', and perhaps a tad better than your GED certificate.
Whats "IIT"?
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Old 10-27-2013, 11:22 AM
 
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It wouldn't really be 'free' healthcare since WE PAID FOR IT.
Who's "we"? Half the people ain't paying crap.
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Old 10-27-2013, 11:23 AM
 
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Let me help YOU with the math - what does 58% of 3 trillion equate to?

Defense Spending Is Much Greater than You Think: more than $1Trillion a year | Wake-up Call


When it comes to discretionary spending, Congress gives 58% to the military vs 5% for healthcare. Here are US budget charts for the years 2009 and 2010, according to the National Priorities Project (NPP):

More than 50% of US Government Spending Goes to the Military | Global Research
The healthcare spending is classified as mandatory spending and is closer to 30-40%.
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Old 10-27-2013, 11:24 AM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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If we are going to take money from the military, it shouldn't be from the "black" budget. These are often programs that give us a great advantage over enemies. Rather, we should cut funding from "Nation Building", i.e. building infrastructure, school, hospitals, etc. in foreign countries. We need to build our own nation.
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