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Old 10-29-2013, 09:31 AM
 
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I tend to agree. It will be interesting to see what happens in Russia when the one-year expiration of his temporary asylum approaches.
I'm sure Angela Merkel would gladly offer him a room.
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Old 10-29-2013, 09:41 AM
 
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I don't think history bears that up. Some served in the military, some in governments, some other things... Few, if any, were specifically hunted down by the British, solely for their signatures.
One of them actually had his children kidnapped, held on a boat, and then eventually killed, because the signer wouldnt go back on his signature.. but I did make an error. I meant the Declaration of Independence.. Not the Constutiton.
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Old 10-29-2013, 09:43 AM
 
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Thanks to NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden I believe the United States public won.
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Old 10-29-2013, 09:46 AM
 
Location: US
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Someone had to bring the promised-but lied about- transparency. He didn't just 'win'...we all won, at least those who care anyway.
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Old 10-29-2013, 09:46 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Throwing around the word "treason"does not deter me from speaking of the facts that have resulted from the actions of Snowden. Sorry to inform you of that.
Yes, and one of those little facts is that the US has supposedly been monitoring our allies communications for the last TEN YEARS (at least).
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Old 10-29-2013, 09:50 AM
 
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Thanks to NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden I believe the United States public won.
Its too early to proclaim that, since I doubt the NSA has changed a thing..
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Old 10-29-2013, 09:50 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Someone had to bring the promised-but lied about- transparency. He didn't just 'win'...we all won, at least those who care anyway.
Wow, so how has your life changed; in what drastic way, now that you know (or can find out) all this stuff?

What, exactly, did YOU win?
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Old 10-29-2013, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Montgomery Village
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That's what happens when you play hot potato with something like this.
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Old 10-29-2013, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Whether you approve, or disapprove, of the leaks of NSA/USA spying activities across the globe, including collecting virtually every digital footprint left behind by billions of average, everyday people, you have to admit that Edward Snowden won. Why? Because his actions have cast all sorts of doubts on the virtues of the US Government resulting in acrimony across world governments and their people, lawsuits against government that were once dismissed for "national security reasons," admissions of law-breaking by our very own government, and the general proclivity of people to stand up and say "enough is enough!" Yes, Edward Snowden has achieved his goals.
Snowden won and the US lost! Yes, Snowden will go down in history as one of the greatest traitors of the US!
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Old 10-29-2013, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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It wasnt that long ago that Democrats believed that people should be rewarded for leaking this type of information. But then there was a Republican in the White House..
You show me one example of a Democrat who was in favor of blabbing national security secrets all over the world.
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