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Old 10-29-2013, 10:01 AM
 
Location: South Portland, ME
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I don't know what his motives were in doing what he did. If he was true to his "principles" he would have faced his accusers in court. FWIW being an American has more to do with love of country than the lifestyle.
No, that's called being a fascist.

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The only official definition of Fascism comes from Benito Mussolini, the founder of fascism, in which he outlines three principles of a fascist philosophy.

1."Everything in the state". The Government is supreme and the country is all-encompasing, and all within it must conform to the ruling body, often a dictator.

2."Nothing outside the state". The country must grow and the implied goal of any fascist nation is to rule the world, and have every human submit to the government.

3."Nothing against the state". Any type of questioning the government is not to be tolerated. If you do not see things our way, you are wrong. If you do not agree with the government, you cannot be allowed to live and taint the minds of the rest of the good citizens.

The use of militarism was implied only as a means to accomplish one of the three above principles, mainly to keep the people and rest of the world in line.
This is exactly what people like you are talking about when you act like the government can do no wrong and should always be blindly supported because "Murrica".
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Old 10-29-2013, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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And another one..

You seemed to celebrate the leaks then.. Why the change?
Again, what did I leak that wasn't already out there? What you are posting is like claiming that someone here who posts the US was listening to the call of the German chancellor, actually leaked the information.
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Old 10-29-2013, 10:04 AM
 
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FYI, you blow the whistle to authorities within the US, not all over the world to our enemies!!!
LOL...blow the whistle to US authorities? What a mind-boggling stupid statement!! Do I need to even explain to you why?????
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Old 10-29-2013, 10:04 AM
 
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Again, what did I leak that wasn't already out there? What you are posting is like claiming that someone here who posts the US was listening to the call of the German chancellor, actually leaked the information.
Where have I accused you of leaking any information? I've asked why you seemed to celebrate the leaks then, but now hold the opposite opinion..
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Old 10-29-2013, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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And another one..

You seemed to celebrate the leaks then.. Why the change?
Did I go overseas and blab this to foreign leaders?
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Old 10-29-2013, 10:06 AM
 
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Did I go overseas and blab this to foreign leaders?
Did I suggest you did? I asked WHY you supported the leaks, not why you took part.. and then WHY you hold the exact opposite opinion of those who leak now than you did a few years ago when a Republican held the White House..
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Old 10-29-2013, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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LOL...blow the whistle to US authorities? What a mind-boggling stupid statement!! Do I need to even explain to you why?????
Therefore in your world, the next best thing is to disclose highly classified information concerning the security of US citizens to leaders of foreign nations, some of which, are our enemies. Great logic there!
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Old 10-29-2013, 10:08 AM
 
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FYI, you blow the whistle to authorities within the US, not all over the world to our enemies!!!
Here's what happened to another NSA whistleblower who tried that.
U.S. v. Whistleblower Tom Drake - YouTube
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Old 10-29-2013, 10:08 AM
 
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Therefore in your world, the next best thing is to disclose highly classified information concerning the security of US citizens to leaders of foreign nations, some of which, are our enemies. Great logic there!
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I wonder how the Christian-Huckabee feels about paying, for these things that were done, with his tax dollars. Christians do not want tax dollars going for abortion but these atrocities are okay?
You seemed all fine and dandy with the leaks of these "atrocities", just a few years ago..
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Old 10-29-2013, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Did I suggest you did? I asked WHY you supported the leaks, not why you took part.. and then WHY you hold the exact opposite opinion of those who leak now than you did a few years ago when a Republican held the White House..
Where did I write that I supported those leaks? Who did I support? Who was the Democrat who supported those leaks?
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