Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 10-29-2013, 11:57 AM
 
46,259 posts, read 27,071,273 times
Reputation: 11113

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge View Post
Which minimum requirements?

Because the minimum requirements, like no arbitrary cancellation, seem reasonable to me. Do you think insurance companies should be able to cancel your insurance because it rained on Sunday? That's an arbitrary reason. Or because you had a hamburger last Wednesday? That's an arbitrary reason. Or because your credit score fell below 730? That's an arbitrary reason. Or because you got a flu shot? That's an arbitrary reason.
I don't know, I'm only quoting what you provided in a link. Why not tell us, you said they were exempt from many of the ACA mandates....did you not?
Quote:
Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge View Post
And the grandfathered policies are EXEMPT from many of the ACA mandates.
What are these mandates you speak of?
Which ones must the still provide, which ones can they waive? Do tell....
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 10-29-2013, 12:15 PM
 
47,525 posts, read 69,668,317 times
Reputation: 22474
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iamme73 View Post
Obamacare forces them to drop many of their plans that don't meet the law's 10 minimum standards, including maternity care, emergency visits, mental health treatment and even pediatric dental care.

That means consumers have to sign on to new plans even if they don't want or need the more generous coverage. Industry experts say about half the people getting the letters will pay more -- and half will pay less, thanks to taxpayer subsidies. Levitt said, "The winners outnumber the losers here, but because of all the website problems, it's hard to find out who the winners are because they don't even know it themselves."
And why would someone with no kids but still sane need all that?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-29-2013, 12:16 PM
 
47,525 posts, read 69,668,317 times
Reputation: 22474
And why should anyone pay more so that others pay less?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-29-2013, 12:16 PM
 
42,732 posts, read 29,859,083 times
Reputation: 14345
Quote:
Originally Posted by chucksnee View Post
I don't know, I'm only quoting what you provided in a link. Why not tell us, you said they were exempt from many of the ACA mandates....did you not? What are these mandates you speak of?
Which ones must the still provide, which ones can they waive? Do tell....
It's in the link.

They cannot have lifetime limits.

They cannot cancel your coverage arbitrarily.

They have to make coverage available if you want it for your children up to 26 years of age.

They have to provide you with a summary of coverage.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-29-2013, 12:18 PM
 
42,732 posts, read 29,859,083 times
Reputation: 14345
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iamme73 View Post
Obamacare forces them to drop many of their plans that don't meet the law's 10 minimum standards, including maternity care, emergency visits, mental health treatment and even pediatric dental care.

That means consumers have to sign on to new plans even if they don't want or need the more generous coverage. Industry experts say about half the people getting the letters will pay more -- and half will pay less, thanks to taxpayer subsidies. Levitt said, "The winners outnumber the losers here, but because of all the website problems, it's hard to find out who the winners are because they don't even know it themselves."
No, the ACA allows them to grandfather these plans in.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-29-2013, 12:18 PM
 
11,186 posts, read 6,501,248 times
Reputation: 4622
Quote:
Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge View Post
And the grandfathered policies are EXEMPT from many of the ACA mandates.
They aren't exempt from mandated coverage of adult children up to age 26, the ban on lifetime benefit limits, and having a waiting period of more than 90 days. There may be other mandates that apply. 'Grandfathered' plans also are covered by a bunch of prohibited practices that will cause them to lose grandfather status.You might like the mandates, but the deck is stacked against gfathered plans.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-29-2013, 12:22 PM
 
69,368 posts, read 64,077,144 times
Reputation: 9383
Quote:
Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge View Post
And the grandfathered policies are EXEMPT from many of the ACA mandates.
AGAIN... All health plans must:
•End lifetime limits on coverage
•End arbitrary cancellations of health coverage
•Cover adult children up to age 26
•Provide a Summary of Benefits and Coverage (SBC), a short, easy-to-understand summary of what a plan covers and costs
•Hold insurance companies accountable to spend your premiums on health care, not administrative costs and bonuses

Right from the healthcare.gov website, and there arent that many policies created prior to 2010 which allowed adult children up to 26 on their policies, which means EVERYTHING BEFORE IT, needs CANCELLED..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-29-2013, 12:29 PM
 
23,838 posts, read 23,112,280 times
Reputation: 9409
Quote:
Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge View Post
Actually, it explicitly states that grandfathered policies would be EXEMPT from many of the ACA requirements.
So what exactly are you defending? That grandfathered policies are being cancelled, or that people with cancelled grandfather policies are more likely to pay higher premiums with higher deductibles? How are either of those defensible scenarios considering the promises this President made? I'm not really sure what you're arguing, but it sure seems like you applaud the upheaval in people's personal and financial lives for no other reason than to high-five this Administration.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-29-2013, 12:43 PM
 
42,732 posts, read 29,859,083 times
Reputation: 14345
Quote:
Originally Posted by AeroGuyDC View Post
So what exactly are you defending? That grandfathered policies are being cancelled, or that people with cancelled grandfather policies are more likely to pay higher premiums with higher deductibles? How are either of those defensible scenarios considering the promises this President made? I'm not really sure what you're arguing, but it sure seems like you applaud the upheaval in people's personal and financial lives for no other reason than to high-five this Administration.
I'm arguing that the insurance companies bear some responsibility for people losing their insurance coverage.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-29-2013, 12:44 PM
 
12,638 posts, read 8,948,629 times
Reputation: 7458
Quote:
Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge View Post
I'm arguing that the insurance companies bear some responsibility for people losing their insurance coverage.
None of this would have ever happened if the ACA hadn't been passed. Period.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:59 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top