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Old 10-30-2013, 10:56 AM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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Listening to the hearing on capital hill for Democrats it turned into a sales pitch and the Dems are giving misleading information.
I think what we've witnessed, once again, is the extent to which people who hate this President, and dislike America and want to see the country fail, will go to hurt the American people. There has been one lie after another about a long list of issues.
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Old 10-30-2013, 11:08 AM
 
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I think what we've witnessed, once again, is the extent to which people who hate this President, and dislike America and want to see the country fail, will go to hurt the American people. There has been one lie after another about a long list of issues.
LOL, if you are in favor of this you are in favor of taking from one person to give to another. Taking from the responsible be it middle class or rich to give "once again" to the poor. This will be the downfall of the middle class.
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Old 10-30-2013, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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The company (verizon subsidiary)that hosts the fed data hub is down for the second time this week. This kind of thing does not happen in 2013. I'm not ready to reach for the tin foil hat yet but one has to wonder if this is not intentional sabotage by anti-Obamacare employees or something.

Obamacare website down again, cannot access federal data hub: CMS
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Old 10-30-2013, 01:20 PM
 
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It was a moment that would have made even Baghdad Bob blush.
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Old 10-30-2013, 01:43 PM
 
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The federal government is accountable for this system. They chose Verizon. I own a business. If there is a problem somewhere along a supply chain, it falls on me to make things right for my customers. I don't get to say, "Sorry, the supplier I chose screwed up, you don't get your stuff." I'm responsible for making sure things are handled correctly.

Obama, Sebelius and Dems made this law, wrote the rules, chose the contractors, and are forcing people to get coverage or pay a fee. They are accountable for making sure the site works.
It may fall on you to make things right for your customers, but you do get to say, "Sorry, the supplier screwed up, and I'm working to fix the problem and get your stuff to you as soon as possible."

When the power goes out, you don't hold yourself accountable. When the cable or satellite goes down, you aren't personally responsible. Verizon is having a service problem. They are the only ones who can fix it, so they are the responsible ones.

And frankly, your pretense that the federal government is responsible for Verizon is ridiculous.
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Old 10-30-2013, 02:29 PM
 
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It may fall on you to make things right for your customers, but you do get to say, "Sorry, the supplier screwed up, and I'm working to fix the problem and get your stuff to you as soon as possible."

When the power goes out, you don't hold yourself accountable. When the cable or satellite goes down, you aren't personally responsible. Verizon is having a service problem. They are the only ones who can fix it, so they are the responsible ones.

And frankly, your pretense that the federal government is responsible for Verizon is ridiculous.

The government IS responsible for putting all their eggs in the Verizon basket. Even in the very small business where I work, we have redundant service to maintain connectivity should our primary provider suffer a failure.
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Old 10-30-2013, 02:57 PM
 
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The government IS responsible for putting all their eggs in the Verizon basket. Even in the very small business where I work, we have redundant service to maintain connectivity should our primary provider suffer a failure.
Ain't you special?

How much do think a redundant service would cost the government to maintain for a website designed to serve millions of people? Do you think a data hub would present any security issues, and so a redundant data hub might double the security risks?
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Old 10-30-2013, 03:00 PM
 
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How much do think a redundant service would cost the government to maintain for a website designed to serve millions of people?
Much less than the cost of a major service disruption during the critical roll-out phase.
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Old 10-30-2013, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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LOL, if you are in favor of this you are in favor of taking from one person to give to another. Taking from the responsible be it middle class or rich to give "once again" to the poor. This will be the downfall of the middle class.
There are plenty of middle class people that are one step away bankruptcy if a spouse gets sick or they get dropped from their health plan, try switching to a new company and having a pre-existing condition denied.
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Old 10-30-2013, 03:47 PM
 
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Much less than the cost of a major service disruption during the critical roll-out phase.
Really?

Year after year, those costs really add up. Plus you didn't respond to the security question. Tell me, at home do you have cable AND satellite, because redundancy is so important to you?
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