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Old 10-30-2013, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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There ought to be a law! Whenever anyone accuses any one else about being a nazi sympathizer, or collaborator should have to spend a day at the holocaust museum, or even better an actual death camp in Germany or Poland! Good grief people, there is NOTHING we are doing in any way in this country by EITHER party and or even in the crazy Tea Party that even slightly resembles the murder of 6 million people, after stripping them of their worldly goods, separating them from their family's, stripping them naked, performing acts of barbarism to their bodies, killing their children before their eyes, starving them to the point of being walking skeletons, then shoving them in gas chambers while guards sifted through their mouths to remove gold from their teeth, and made lampshades out of their skin! I am disgusted beyond belief when low class idiots cry Nazi anything when they haven't a clue what a Nazi truly was. SHUT THE .......UP, and go read a book!
You go read a book. What you wrote was the end result, how the hell do you think it all got started?

And spare me your fake outrage, we listened to the moonbats call us brown shirts, jack booted thugs, and nazi sympathizers for years.
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Old 10-30-2013, 05:59 PM
 
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I wish people could see this.....there are three industries involved here, the drug companies, the hospital systems and the health insurers (not the insurance industry). The big guns are the first two, that's why you hear nothing about them day one. Health insurers don't make the money life insurance companies make, their small potatoes among this group. As big as many think they are, they don't have the lobbying power the others have, that's why they're the bad guys throughout all of this.
Lobbying isn't where the action is. Hospital districts also fall under special accounting rules. If you look at the fortune 500 I just posted. You can see JPM got beat out by health care.

I don't think you really need to separate them. They all work together.
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Old 10-30-2013, 06:28 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Default Obama blames "bad apple insurers" for canceled insurance plans

Obama doesn't seem to be saying that the insurance companies are "bad apples" for cancelling people's insurance policies. Rather, he seems to be saying that companies were "bad apples" for offering insurance polices to start with, that didn't conform to the standards Barack Obama thinks they should have conformed to... leading to Obamacare forcing them to be cancelled today.

Somehow this does not comfort me. How were these companies to know, five or ten or twenty years ago, that Barack Obama would come up with new "standards" far in the future, that said if a policy didn't cover treatment for mental health issues, or didn't cover maternity treatment for male policyholders, etc., it was somehow deficient or "not good enough"? Especially since millions of people wanted those policies and were happy to get them and pay for them?

Barack Obama seems to feel he is qualified to overrule the decisions people made about their own personal health care, and substitute his own judgement on what is good for them. Or maybe it's the Congress that he feels is qualified to overrule people's personal decisions.

Considering what he is now imposing on everyone whether they like it or not (polls have NEVER shown a majority of American people in favor of Obamacare), should we re-evaluate whether he is really that qualified, to decide for us what's the best health insurance for us?

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Obama blames ‘bad apple insurers’ for canceled insurance plans

Obama blames ‘bad apple insurers’ for canceled insurance plans

By Aaron Blake
October 30 at 5:30 pm

Fact-checkers and journalists have ruled that Obama wasn't being truthful when he claimed that people who liked their insurance could keep it. Obama during a speech in Boston sought to cast the issue Wednesday as trying to weed out "bad apple insurers" who don't provide enough coverage.

"One of the things health reform was designed to do was to help not only the uninsured but also the under-insured," Obama said. "And there are a number of Americans, fewer than 5 percent of Americans, who've got cut-rate plans that don't offer real financial protection in the event of a serious illness or an accident.

"Remember, before the Affordable Care Act, these bad apple insurers had free rein every single year to limit the care that you received or used minor pre-existing conditions to jack up your premiums or bill you into bankruptcy."
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Old 10-30-2013, 06:32 PM
 
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Bad apple? So Obama is forcing folks to purchase the insurance HE thinks they need now what they want. Typical. Then blaming everyone else for the mess HE creates. I will say what Sebelius said.............."Whatever". How much more pathetic can these folks get?? Plenty I'm sure.
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Old 10-30-2013, 06:36 PM
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Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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When a person tells you one lie, it is time to stop listening.

Who cares what Obama says?

Now who is sorry they voted for him? If you voted for him it is time to apologize to all of us for forcing this socialist agenda on us.
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Old 10-30-2013, 06:37 PM
 
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Bad apple? So Obama is forcing folks to purchase the insurance HE thinks they need now what they want. Typical. Then blaming everyone else for the mess HE creates. I will say what Sebelius said.............."Whatever". How much more pathetic can these folks get?? Plenty I'm sure.

Trust me, we're talking about Obama here. He can get a lot more pathetic.

As I've thought for some time now, he will go down as the worst president in the history of the United States, just due to his lying.
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Old 10-30-2013, 06:38 PM
 
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[quote=Goinback2011;32025957]Nazis passed laws allowing them to confiscate the businesses and wealth of Jews long before the Holocaust started.

You have no idea what you're talking about.[/l

I know exactly what I am talking about, it is you under some delusion about our lives here in America as even being slightly similar to nazis in any way. Yes, you are correct....about what happened prior to the death camps, as this created the atmosphere and the crowd mentality and the arrogance to create the ghettos, then the death camps. None of this is happening here, nor has been done or is even close to being done here in the United States. Mega corporations are not only in no fear of this happening to them, they are richer than they have ever been. And plenty secure. There is NO PARTICULAR people, or group of citizens that are at risk of losing their wealth or their businesses in this country. Groups may be complaining about this tax or that regulation, this bill or that decision, but no one is in the slightest bit in jeopardy of anything being taken away from them, or being herded into a ghetto then disposed of like so much human garbage. Even enslavement of humans is frowned upon in this country, much less extinguishing them! Let's just agree get over this nazi garbage as a talking point, shall we?
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Old 10-30-2013, 06:41 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Trust me, we're talking about Obama here. He can get a lot more pathetic.

As I've thought for some time now, he will go down as the worst president in the history of the United States, just due to his lying.
Lying is necessary to get his agenda passed.

If he told people honestly what he intended to do, who would ever vote for him?

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Old 10-30-2013, 06:43 PM
 
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You go read a book. What you wrote was the end result, how the hell do you think it all got started?

And spare me your fake outrage, we listened to the moonbats call us brown shirts, jack booted thugs, and nazi sympathizers for years.
My outrage is quite real, as it should be with you should you be a thinking, caring human being. If any liberal or progressive posted this tripe on a site such as this and used the nazi reference in any way it would illicit the same response from me. There is NEVER a valid reason to reference this horrible time of history unless it is denouncing it.
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Old 10-30-2013, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Ah, I see today the regressive radical right is flipping from "Obama is a weak minded fool who can't lead", back to "Obama is a ruthless bullying dictator."
You really need to get on the distribution list for the daily tea party talking points. They change in an instant and can swing 180 with the drop of a hat.
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