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They might be discriminating against Asians in favor of bringing in more whites. Besides, it was whites raising hell in the first place about the explosion of Asians at these schools.
Now I know you wanna get mad at blacks and Hispanics (typical) but we didn't make this decision...nor did we lobby for less Asians at these schools.
Not an ivy school but the NAACP has filed suit against a magnet highschool in NY over the number of asian students taking up the spots.
Then you have the suits about too few of certain minorities in STEM fields and resulting funding from the govt. to boost those numbers.
Hey, I can appreciate a private school making whatever choices it deems best to produce a quality institution.
I'm just chuckling over how some aspects of college are purely meritorius and others have racial quotas and how funny it would be if they started suing to have racial quotas on teams.
Imagine the NY Giants getting flagged for "Not enough asians on the field. That's a 10 yard penalty, automatic first down."
It's also a pet peeve of mine that people "worked hard" to succeed in sports and academic types were "lucky to be so smart" or only succeeded because they had resources and advantages others didn't have.
so shall we have a list of racist idiots that think this is a good policy?
those whom support this in any way shape or form are the ones whom are totally racist on all accounts.
they deserve to be there and they are also a minority.
no excuses what so ever to deny them.
so you complain about them being TOO SMART? so they are marginalized?
WTF?
these are the problems with certain racists.
hello?
maybe actually invite them to party with then.
they may actually like other things right?
them studying computer science and engineering?
oh how about a hacking contest or engineering team to make robots you know stuff that would actually innovate?
how about a gaming party as well if they are gamers.
what one finds as dull they may find enlightening and intriguing.
doctors degrees can do some lab work then.
I do not understand people complaining about the good Asians-Americans landing spots in schools.
if they didn't deserve it fine but if they do then what is the problem
seems to me some racists in America wants to say them being born here and love America is not good enough to be American
and they have to lower their own IQ to be part of them... I wonder how many racists even know the history of America?
yes some of the racist left has some explaining to do,
for spitting at our constitution
rather than these Asian Americans.
And this is why our country is going down hill
no wonder
One mans athletic scholarship is another persons endowment grant.
Nomenclature.
Look, my son got accepted into Cornell's School of Hotel and Restaurant Management...a lifelong dream of his.
Too expensive. They offered a means tested financial aid package, but the combination of him being an only child and our household income was still more than I could reasonably afford.
However, I still offered to pay, albeit with the stipulation.that I could not get him a new car (that I'd promised) and.that I couldn't give him any financial help whatsoever beyond his student expenses.
He decided against it...painfully.
But the main thing is that by him staying in state, he got a new car, 4 years of undergrad, and a year of grad school (he finished in 3 semesters) all paid for by yours truly with no debt incurred by him.
When you're considering an Ivy, a lot goes into it. I wish like hell that I could've sent my son to Cornell...but hey..the sky won't fall if you can't get in.
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Not an ivy school but the NAACP has filed suit against a magnet highschool in NY over the number of asian students taking up the spots.
Then you have the suits about too few of certain minorities in STEM fields and resulting funding from the govt. to boost those numbers.
Hey, I can appreciate a private school making whatever choices it deems best to produce a quality institution.
I'm just chuckling over how some aspects of college are purely meritorius and others have racial quotas and how funny it would be if they started suing to have racial quotas on teams.
Imagine the NY Giants getting flagged for "Not enough asians on the field. That's a 10 yard penalty, automatic first down."
It's also a pet peeve of mine that people "worked hard" to succeed in sports and academic types were "lucky to be so smart" or only succeeded because they had resources and advantages others didn't have.
I understand. This issue is very complicated. Seems to me that there are no clear cut answers.
Look, my son got accepted into Cornell's School of Hotel and Restaurant Management...a lifelong dream of his.
Too expensive. They offered a means tested financial aid package, but the combination of him being an only child and our household income was still more than I could reasonably afford.
However, I still offered to pay, albeit with the stipulation.that I could not get him a new car (that I'd promised) and.that I couldn't give him any financial help whatsoever beyond his student expenses.
He decided against it...painfully.
But the main thing is that by him staying in state, he got a new car, 4 years of undergrad, and a year of grad school (he finished in 3 semesters) all paid for by yours truly with no debt incurred by him.
When you're considering an Ivy, a lot goes into it. I wish like hell that I could've sent my son to Cornell...but hey..the sky won't fall if you can't get in.
I understand. This issue is very complicated. Seems to me that there are no clear cut answers.
I hear you. Congratulations on your sons acceptance there, that's no small feat.
My oldest will be in pretty much exactly the same boat as yours. He will have to choose between a high level private and debt or someplace cheaper and no debt etc.
You are 100% correct, sky won't fall and an enviable position to be in when you consider people with staggering student debts and so forth.
What is amazing is the large number of Asians that voted for Obama. They suffer under racial quotas pushed through by the Liberals and yet they vote for the biggest Liberal out there.
well then would you let a real Candidate up so Asians can maybe have a choice?
remember the quote "better the devil you know than a devil you don't?"
well along those lines anyway.
also I personally know a few asians that voted 3rd party as well rather than obama or romney.
many seem to know it makes no difference.
so they may as well just throw the vote to whomever and they are more passive than active especially those that just immigrated over seas and started here.
their children are whom I am friends with though.
and yes they are voting 3rd party at least most of the ones I know.
as for immigrants/their parents probably obama then.
they are passive remember?
but their kids at least those I have met are more in line with libertarian principles. imo
except the neo-con principle
I a few times when i visited some colleges I saw some graffitti in college desks during the 2012 elections as well.
bathrooms sometimes had vote ron paul or gary johnson on it.
and yes they were talking about it in some classes I over heard.
so it was all in all
Republicans own fault don't blame Asians for Obama getting elected now
next time actually put someone up that would not be a clone maybe.
if you put a clone every time the original clone puppet will be put back into place.
why bother changing them when they will do the exact same thing
But in all fairness, he makes a good point. And really it comes down to what a person values.
I can respect an institution's goals of diversity on a campus, but how does that jibe with the principle of meritocracy?
It's a very complex and convoluted situation. There are no easy answers .
The waters are further muddied by the unequal demographic\educational starting point that underlies the process.
Just based on our immigration policy we SHOULD have more indians and asians doing well academically than if we had randomly selected Indians and Asians off the street be they mathematicians or cab drivers or garbage pickers.
A % quota system silently assumes that each racial group has the same general composition of academic gifts despite an immigration policy that is absolutely not functioning in that manner.
We take the cream of the crop from those countries and then when thier offspring kick butt academically somehow things aren't fair because the ethnicity and pigmenation %'s are off?
If the Asians are scoring the highest, they should be the ones in the top schools and getting the scholarship money period.
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