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Old 10-30-2013, 05:40 PM
 
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An entire population of socially inept nerds is not beneficial to most schools.
You know, seeing an article about how it appears Ivies are capping Asian student admission rates (and anecdotally having gone to a top-notch school and most of my friends having gone to others, it's pretty much an open secret everywhere this has been going on for years) and responding on the presumption that they are "socially inept nerds" and "robotic bookworms" is pretty darned racist.

Not only that, but it's also blatantly wrong -- white students who are "robotic bookworms" or "socially inept nerds who need to understand the importance of extracurricular activities" don't get into Ivies either, and they have it easier than Asian applicants.
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Old 10-30-2013, 07:05 PM
 
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Sure, why not?

People have absolutely no problem with cronyism, nepotism, and legacies. So no, I really do not see a problem. Perhaps those students (and their parents) will start to understand the importance of extracurricular activities. No one wants to be surrounded by robotic bookworms in college.
If Asians HAVE TO have 4.0 GPAs and perfect SAT scores to go to college, how can they sleep around as you wish?
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Old 10-30-2013, 07:09 PM
 
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Sure, why not?

People have absolutely no problem with cronyism, nepotism, and legacies. So no, I really do not see a problem. Perhaps those students (and their parents) will start to understand the importance of extracurricular activities. No one wants to be surrounded by robotic bookworms in college.
Why not? You are advocating racism here!!!
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Old 10-30-2013, 07:15 PM
 
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I don't see race as a good way to determine who is dull (whatever that means). If the school wants diversity, they can cap based on criteria. As an example:

- 80% of the students must be bilingual.
- 70% of the students must have limited mastery of an instrument.
- 25% of the students must have participated on a varsity team.
- 25% of the students must have held a student senate position or similar.

You can eliminate all your students from being dull by defining what dull is and setting up requirements based on that criteria.
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Old 10-30-2013, 07:22 PM
 
Location: La lune et les Ă©toiles
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If Asians HAVE TO have 4.0 GPAs and perfect SAT scores to go to college, how can they sleep around as you wish?
Everyone else manages to balance focusing on academics AND extracurricular activities. Perhaps they need a new game plan.
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Old 10-30-2013, 07:38 PM
 
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Everyone else manages to balance focusing on academics AND extracurricular activities. Perhaps they need a new game plan.
Other groups are protected by AA or are the majority, but do not really have a better balance.

There are Asian "studs" and big mouths too. You guess what? Schools still prefer GPA 4.0 Asians over them.
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Old 10-30-2013, 07:39 PM
 
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Everyone else manages to balance focusing on academics AND extracurricular activities. Perhaps they need a new game plan.
Many Asian kids play the piano/violin, and speak another language fluently.
Does that count?
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Old 10-30-2013, 07:48 PM
 
Location: La lune et les Ă©toiles
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Many Asian kids play the piano/violin, and speak another language fluently.
Does that count?
Many of the strongest bonds in college are made by pledging a fraternity or sorority, playing on sports teams, joining on-campus organizations, being on the staff of the college newspaper, study abroad semesters, taking trips on spring break and winter break, parties in the dorms, etc.

Seriously, no one really cares if someone plays the violin or speaks Mandarin. And no one from college can remember the name of the bookish Chinese student who was in the freshman dorm room down the hall. College is also about networking and forming relationships that will be beneficial as an alumni. These do not tend to be strong skills for certain students and colleges recognize that as a potential issue in the future among certain student groups.
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Old 10-30-2013, 08:18 PM
 
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More racism from the left with more racist justifications. So just because a student is Asian it means the person is a socially inept book worm? Recruiters and employers do not look to Ivy league schools to find the captain of the campus binge drinking group - they look to the Ivy leagues to find the smartest and most capable people. I admit that just because a person has a 4.0 does not necessarily make them competent in a specific field, but capping college admission based on race and stereotypes is just, well, racist.
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Old 10-30-2013, 08:29 PM
 
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Many of the strongest bonds in college are made by pledging a fraternity or sorority, playing on sports teams, joining on-campus organizations, being on the staff of the college newspaper, study abroad semesters, taking trips on spring break and winter break, parties in the dorms, etc.

Seriously, no one really cares if someone plays the violin or speaks Mandarin. And no one from college can remember the name of the bookish Chinese student who was in the freshman dorm room down the hall. College is also about networking and forming relationships that will be beneficial as an alumni. These do not tend to be strong skills for certain students and colleges recognize that as a potential issue in the future among certain student groups.
So you are a party person? OK but please allow those who really want to learn to succeed too.
Some students will become top scientists, engineers, artists etc., and it is important for them to maintain a good learning habit.

As I said, there are "socializable" Asians too. why not let the colleges admit more of them instead of cutting off good students?
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