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View Poll Results: Do you believe the welfare system rewards the wrong people to reproduce in large numbers?
Yes 160 74.07%
No 42 19.44%
Yes/No 14 6.48%
Voters: 216. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-29-2013, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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I am not talking about the single mom who needs help after her husband died, but the poor women who has 6 kids, is pregnant with her 7th kid, her first two daughters are pregnant, her son has impregnated a girl at age 17. ect

Do you believe the welfare system rewards the wrong people for the wrong actions and has lead to America becoming a ineptocracy


Ineptocracy
a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.
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Old 07-29-2013, 03:20 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Yes, the system rewards the poor in the form of government subsidies to have kids. The more kids they have the more money they get.

Dependency is another form of slavery.
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Old 07-29-2013, 03:26 PM
 
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I am not talking about the single mom who needs help after her husband died, but the poor women who has 6 kids, is pregnant with her 7th kid, her first two daughters are pregnant, her son has impregnated a girl at age 17. ect

Do you believe the welfare system rewards the wrong people for the wrong actions and has lead to America becoming a ineptocracy


Ineptocracy
a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.

Love the Costco line from "Idiocracy".
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Old 07-29-2013, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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No. It just doesn't punish their bad behavior. Poor people have been having kids, regardless if there was a welfare system in place. If we erased it tonight, we'd still have the same problem in 10 years.
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Old 07-29-2013, 03:29 PM
 
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You don't need to worry about the "wrong people" having too many kids.


Health & Human Services reports that:


The average number of persons in TANF families was 2.4, including an average of 1.8 recipient children.

One in two recipient families had only one child.

Less than eight percent of families had more than three children.


http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/ofa/...hap10-ys-final
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Old 07-29-2013, 03:31 PM
 
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No. It just doesn't punish their bad behavior. Poor people have been having kids, regardless if there was a welfare system in place. If we erased it tonight, we'd still have the same problem in 10 years.
Poor people have "bad behavior?" I didn't know that. Way to demonize the poor, our favorite group for people to hate.
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Old 07-29-2013, 03:34 PM
 
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Only in America do we place a moral value on people based on how much money they have.
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Old 07-29-2013, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Love the Costco line from "Idiocracy".
I like money.
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Old 07-29-2013, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The US spends over $1 trillion in means tested programs to battle material poverty.
And what we have created over the years is behavioral poverty to take its place.
And you can't fight that with money.
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Old 07-29-2013, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Only in America do we place a moral value on people based on how much money they have.
We dont,
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