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Those insurance companies had grandfathered in plans, that didn't have to completely comply with the new standards, but those insurance companies were told if you CHANGE existing policies in specific manners that make those policies worse for you consumers,
Not quite. You are misleading people with that statement. It wasn't the insurance companies changing the policies. If the customer were to request to increase their deductible, that constituted a change in the policy (according to the government) and it was therefore not the same policy; i.e., loss of "grandfathering."
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then the plan is no longer grandfathered and will have to meet all the standards of the new health care law.
Those insurance companies decided to CHANGE those existing policies in ways that they knew violated the law and just took away the plans grandfathered in status.
No, they didn't. You are propagandizing. That is a bald faced lie.
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Now given reality who else is to blame but those insurance companies, who knew the rules over 3yrs ago and decided to change those plans in ways to make the insurance worse for consumers and thus invalidated their grandfathered in status.
Again, that is simply not true. You are spreading Leftist propaganda.
But those plans were changed. They didn't stay the same so it's not the same plan which is why it lost it's grandfathered status.
The president did not say we could keep our plans if they were grandfathered in he said we could keep our plans if we liked them. Period. He also knew that was not true.
No, they aren't FORCED. They had grandfathered plans. They were told these plans are grandfathered in, but cannot be CHANGED in specific ways that will make the plans worse for your customers.
Why would the insurance companies deliberately change plans to make them worse for their customers, and then drop those customers? Does that make sense? They don't want to lose customers!
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They decided to change those plans in ways that violated the law.
Well my insurance policy did an excellent job. When I had surgery the authorized tests and treatment quickly, when bills came due they paid quickly. I couldn't be more satisfied with my healthcare company, Thank you Highmark, I know you had no choice. Obama said I could keep my policy and I planned on keeping my policy but understand you have to comply with the Obamacare law and are forced to terminate my policy.
The Obama Team message is people like you don't exist. Nobody can be happy with their insurance unless it covers their children up to age 26, has unlimited lifetime benefits, raised the deductible by $5, etc. If you are happy, Obama wants to protect you from yourself.
Section 1251 of the Affordable Care Act contains what’s called a “grandfather” provision that, in theory, allows people to keep their existing plans if they like them. But subsequent regulations from the Obama administration interpreted that provision so narrowly as to prevent most plans from gaining this protection.
Exactly, Sebelius said in the hearing that if the plan changes by even $5, the plan can no longer be grandfathered.
So you are "allowed" to keep your grandfathered plan if:
You had it prior to March 23, 2010.
The plan has not changed by even $5.
The plan has not changed benefits at all.
You bought it on the 5th Tuesday in October.
And your birthday is on February 30.
But outside of those minor requirements, if you like your plan, you can keep it. Period.
The Obama Team message is people like you don't exist. Nobody can be happy with their insurance unless it covers their children up to age 26, has unlimited lifetime benefits, raised the deductible by $5, etc. If you are happy, Obama wants to protect you from yourself.
Barack says we have a "junk policy". This is the equivalent of me having a car accident and totaling your paid off, perfectly operating, 2001 Toyota Celica with my new Ford F150 and then saying "You need to buy a new car. Your's was junk anyway.".
The current private healthcare policies are illegal, next year many more employer policies will be illegal. Democrats blame healthcare companies for complying with the Obamacare law. Unbelievable. Damned if you comply with the law, damned if you don't. The good ole U.S. of A.
I think you hit the nail right on the head with this post. If you ignore laws yourself you have no understanding of law-abiding Americans who do. It is not about getting something done to fix things; it is about where to place the blame. Obama is an expert at stating what is going on, who to blame it on, but has no reasonable plan to improve things.
Maybe I have read too many books but the thought has crossed my mind that maybe the computers are fine but have been purposely crashed in order to hide the fact that Obamacare is not going over well. Could the "broken" computers be buying him time to hide the real problem?
Several Democrats have repeated that lie for over 4 years in addition to the President, including Democrat heavyweights such as Schumer, Reid & Durbin.
The fact remains that ObamaCare is a disaster for the middle class because the insurance it offers is very skimpy and hellaciously overpriced compared to what you gan get elsewhere.
Democrats have always felt that they can spend our money better than we can, and the we are stupid and incapable of making intelligent and reasonable decisions regarding the purchasing of healthcare, which is exactly what Madame Hillary stated in 1993 during the HillaryCare ruckus.
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