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Old 11-02-2013, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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At least we all acknowledge that the Iraq war was a huge mistake. Up until a few years ago, the war actually still had a group of strident defenders who claimed that peace and democracy were ready to flourish in Iraq, but we just had to give it "more time." But as 2013 comes to an end, and Iraq is still in a state of civil war, most of them have given up.

The real lesson is not to repeat the same mistakes elsewhere - we almost got involved in the Syrian civil war a few weeks ago (even more than we already are, behind-the-scenes...). And there are quite a few warmongers who think that invading Iran would be a great idea even today.

There is a one-word rejoinder to them - "Iraq." They have no real response to that anymore.
Iran is casing allot of Iraq's problems a the floods of Syrian refuges the Iraq Army was never equipped to deal with and they should ask Saudi Arabia or the UAE for help if they need military intervention.

I mean Saudi Arabia has F-15 F-16 Abrahams tanks and apaches and Blackhawk helicopters and heavy lift Air Capability and Air-Air refuelling and the I mean the few billionaire oil rich people in the area have literally Gold platted Ferraris' and Bugatti's.

have some of the largest private luxury yachts in the world and can afford to help Iraq if they wanted or cruise around in a mega-yacht that cost over half billion and then hop in 24Kt gold plated Ferrari and burn the tires off it and not do anything.


plus they have some pretty ice palaces since some have a directory so people do not get lost like a mall with the you are here to look how to get to the bathroom or the massive movie theatre that makes movie theaters look cheap.

Our race F1 cars as a hobby and can afford to build a full pout formula one track that is a world class track and also run your own race team and support crew to rebuild the and replace the racing engines which is also expensive.

 
Old 11-02-2013, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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Oh also call china to help since see what they do Russia would be interested in using of soft power or hard power it would be a chance for china to show us up or end up drawn into the ME like we were and our problem was can the Bear trap catch a Dragon cause a Lion and a Eagle got stuck in it too.

so Iraq needs help there are close regional countries that can help them and provide as much support as we could in a insurgent combat has been tactics have not changed since Vietnam.

so Saudi Arabia UAE or china should be able to handle it although as far as chia all I see is videos of how large their military is and the Iraqi Saudi UAE militaries would have seen more actual combat then china has in modern times and a million troops in a military show of force is parade is alot different then say a smaller combat experienced and hardened military since Chia want to prove they are able to be a superpower and as Russia is a former superpower and we are in a decline in influence and well Russia like us has alot of regions were we have lost or have not much influence and

China has a Chance to do what we could not and solve the issues in the ME since it is their turn to be the police for the world since no ore videos of their navy or air force or troops marching but a helmet cam in Iraq while facing a massive insurgent close courter urban combat and ambushes on patrols and see how they fair.
 
Old 11-02-2013, 04:04 PM
 
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The Sunni regime in Saudi Arabia has little interest in strengthening the Shia-led, Iran-allied government in Baghdad. If anything, they'd eventually like to see western Iraq split off as an autonomous region with its own localized security forces who would answer more to Riyadh than Baghdad itself.
 
Old 11-02-2013, 04:41 PM
 
Location: west central Georgia
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It wasn't a democrat that got up on podiums and proclaimed that America was threatened by the use of WMD's, democrats, like all Americans were sold a package containing bull feces.
What about the leaders of your party? Did they fall for the same sack of sh#t that you all did? Were they that dumb they couldn't see through dumb ole Dubya's plan? Cause they sure did support the then president and sign on for the ride.
 
Old 11-03-2013, 01:43 AM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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What about the leaders of your party? Did they fall for the same sack of sh#t that you all did? Were they that dumb they couldn't see through dumb ole Dubya's plan? Cause they sure did support the then president and sign on for the ride.
Yes, we/they most certainly did.
Now,
Let's talk about going back to Iraq and fixing what we messed up.
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