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Old 11-01-2013, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Yeah, well 9/11 happened during Bush's bogus presidency, so what's your point?


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Originally Posted by wrecking ball View Post
i'll do half the work for you. here is a list of 20 mass shootings during obama's presidency. which obama "hit in the media" do you believe each is related to?

March 10, 2009 -- Geneva County, Ala. -- 11 dead (including gunman), 6 injured

March 29, 2009 -- Carthage, N.C. -- 8 dead, 3 injured (including gunman)

April 3, 2009 -- Binghamton, N.Y. -- 14 dead (including gunman), 4 injured

Nov. 5, 2009 -- Fort Hood, Texas -- 13 dead, 30 injured (including gunman)

Nov. 29, 2009 -- Parkland, Wash. -- 5 dead (including gunman)

Aug. 3, 2010 -- Manchester, Conn. -- 9 dead (including gunman), 2 injured

Jan. 8, 2011 -- Tucson, Ariz. -- 6 dead, 14 injured

Oct. 12, 2011 -- Seal Beach, Calif. -- 8 dead, 1 injured

Feb. 22, 2012 -- Norcross, Ga. -- 5 dead (including gunman)

April 2, 2012 -- Oakland, Calif. -- 7 dead

May 31, 2012 -- Seattle, Wash. -- 6 dead (including gunman)

July 20, 2012 -- Aurora, Colo. -- 12 dead, 59 injured

Aug. 5, 2012 -- Oak Creek, Wis. -- 7 dead (including gunman), 4 injured

Sept. 27, 2012 -- Minneapolis, Minn. -- 7 dead (including gunman), 2 injured

Dec. 14, 2012 -- Newtown, Conn. -- 27 dead (including gunman)

March 13, 2013 -- Herkimer County, N.Y. -- 5 dead (including gunman), one FBI K-9 dead

April 21, 2013 -- Federal Way, Wash. -- 5 dead (including gunman)

April 24, 2013 -- Manchester, Ill. -- 5 dead

June 7, 2013 -- Santa Monica, Calif. -- 6 dead (including gunman)

July 26, 2013 -- Hialeah, Fla. -- 7 dead (including gunman)

Sept. 16, 2013 -- Washington -- 13 dead (including gunman) 3 injured

 
Old 11-01-2013, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Yeah, well 9/11 happened during Bush's bogus presidency, so what's your point?
9/11 took the focus off of something Bush was lying about? Please share.

By the way, I noticed that most of those areas on that list of shootings are rather blue areas. Interesting.
 
Old 11-01-2013, 06:54 PM
 
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9/11 took the focus off of something Bush was lying about? Please share.

By the way, I noticed that most of those areas on that list of shootings are rather blue areas. Interesting.
Yes, it's interesting that mass shootings usually happen where there are larger concentrations of people and areas with larger concentrations of people tend to vote Democrat.
 
Old 11-01-2013, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Yes, it's interesting that mass shootings usually happen where there are larger concentrations of people and areas with larger concentrations of people tend to vote Democrat.
Yah, you just keep telling yourself that. I thought all of us gun nut, crazy Republicans didn't live where you liberals live. Don't we live in the south, or the Bible belt, in our trailers? That's a long ways away from WI, and Minn, and DC.

I mean, it IS only "rethuglicans" who have the guns, right? Or are we spinning this a different way today?
 
Old 11-01-2013, 07:36 PM
 
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How many of that list were no gun zones? Boy this thread is spinning in a different direction fast!
 
Old 11-01-2013, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Wherever I happen to be at the moment
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Originally Posted by wrecking ball View Post
i'll do half the work for you. here is a list of 20 mass shootings during obama's presidency. which obama "hit in the media" do you believe each is related to?

March 10, 2009 -- Geneva County, Ala. -- 11 dead (including gunman), 6 injured

March 29, 2009 -- Carthage, N.C. -- 8 dead, 3 injured (including gunman)

April 3, 2009 -- Binghamton, N.Y. -- 14 dead (including gunman), 4 injured

Nov. 5, 2009 -- Fort Hood, Texas -- 13 dead, 30 injured (including gunman)

Nov. 29, 2009 -- Parkland, Wash. -- 5 dead (including gunman)

Aug. 3, 2010 -- Manchester, Conn. -- 9 dead (including gunman), 2 injured

Jan. 8, 2011 -- Tucson, Ariz. -- 6 dead, 14 injured

Oct. 12, 2011 -- Seal Beach, Calif. -- 8 dead, 1 injured

Feb. 22, 2012 -- Norcross, Ga. -- 5 dead (including gunman)

April 2, 2012 -- Oakland, Calif. -- 7 dead

May 31, 2012 -- Seattle, Wash. -- 6 dead (including gunman)

July 20, 2012 -- Aurora, Colo. -- 12 dead, 59 injured

Aug. 5, 2012 -- Oak Creek, Wis. -- 7 dead (including gunman), 4 injured

Sept. 27, 2012 -- Minneapolis, Minn. -- 7 dead (including gunman), 2 injured

Dec. 14, 2012 -- Newtown, Conn. -- 27 dead (including gunman)

March 13, 2013 -- Herkimer County, N.Y. -- 5 dead (including gunman), one FBI K-9 dead

April 21, 2013 -- Federal Way, Wash. -- 5 dead (including gunman)

April 24, 2013 -- Manchester, Ill. -- 5 dead

June 7, 2013 -- Santa Monica, Calif. -- 6 dead (including gunman)

July 26, 2013 -- Hialeah, Fla. -- 7 dead (including gunman)

Sept. 16, 2013 -- Washington -- 13 dead (including gunman) 3 injured
What's really amazing is that Obama has managed to get to these incidents 17 out of 20 times in time to shoot the gunman with 16 of them being kills. I mean, what other explanation could there be? How does he do that?
 
Old 11-01-2013, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Wherever I happen to be at the moment
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Yes, it's interesting that mass shootings usually happen where there are larger concentrations of people and areas with larger concentrations of people tend to vote Democrat.
Now I know what they mean by "herd mentality."
 
Old 11-01-2013, 08:38 PM
 
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What's really amazing is that Obama has managed to get to these incidents 17 out of 20 times in time to shoot the gunman with 16 of them being kills. I mean, what other explanation could there be? How does he do that?
I didnt realize that! Makes for lack of trial and defendant trying to blame others.
 
Old 11-01-2013, 08:43 PM
 
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How many of that list were no gun zones? Boy this thread is spinning in a different direction fast!
I was just going by what the libbies posted earlier on this forum:

//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...tudy-says.html

And the link that they used says this:

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Part of the answer is simply freedom. Americans whose family is steeped in the traditions of southern conservatism tend to enjoy exercising their second amendment Constitutional right. Another is irrationality, or an ignorance of the facts. Gun ownership often proceeds under the assumption that one will be attacked. So people buy guns fearing someone else will use one on them, despite the supposed closeness of people inhabiting gun-heavy regions.

The present study also found associations in their data between opposition to gun controls and conservatism, anti-government sentiment, party identification, and being from a southern state. Even controlling for these factors, the team found racism associated with gun control opposition and gun ownership.
Yet, the list that was presented earlier did not reach that same conclusion:

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March 10, 2009 -- Geneva County, Ala. -- 11 dead (including gunman), 6 injured Red

March 29, 2009 -- Carthage, N.C. -- 8 dead, 3 injured (including gunman) Swing

April 3, 2009 -- Binghamton, N.Y. -- 14 dead (including gunman), 4 injured Blue

Nov. 5, 2009 -- Fort Hood, Texas -- 13 dead, 30 injured (including gunman) Red

Nov. 29, 2009 -- Parkland, Wash. -- 5 dead (including gunman) Blue

Aug. 3, 2010 -- Manchester, Conn. -- 9 dead (including gunman), 2 injured Blue

Jan. 8, 2011 -- Tucson, Ariz. -- 6 dead, 14 injured Swing

Oct. 12, 2011 -- Seal Beach, Calif. -- 8 dead, 1 injured Blue

Feb. 22, 2012 -- Norcross, Ga. -- 5 dead (including gunman) Red

April 2, 2012 -- Oakland, Calif. -- 7 dead Blue

May 31, 2012 -- Seattle, Wash. -- 6 dead (including gunman) Blue

July 20, 2012 -- Aurora, Colo. -- 12 dead, 59 injured Blue

Aug. 5, 2012 -- Oak Creek, Wis. -- 7 dead (including gunman), 4 injured Blue

Sept. 27, 2012 -- Minneapolis, Minn. -- 7 dead (including gunman), 2 injured Blue

Dec. 14, 2012 -- Newtown, Conn. -- 27 dead (including gunman) Blue

March 13, 2013 -- Herkimer County, N.Y. -- 5 dead (including gunman), one FBI K-9 dead Blue

April 21, 2013 -- Federal Way, Wash. -- 5 dead (including gunman) Blue

April 24, 2013 -- Manchester, Ill. -- 5 dead Blue

June 7, 2013 -- Santa Monica, Calif. -- 6 dead (including gunman) Blue

July 26, 2013 -- Hialeah, Fla. -- 7 dead (including gunman) Swing

Sept. 16, 2013 -- Washington -- 13 dead (including gunman) 3 injured Blue
I really wish liberals would make up their minds.
 
Old 11-02-2013, 01:49 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Three Wolves In Snow View Post
I was just going by what the libbies posted earlier on this forum:

//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...tudy-says.html

And the link that they used says this:



Yet, the list that was presented earlier did not reach that same conclusion:



I really wish liberals would make up their minds.
Either way I don't see anybody advocating govt employees giving up any of their toys. Kinda a long list of toys too.
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