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Under ObamaCare, those who work for a living incur massive premium and deductible increases to subsidize those that cannot or will not provide their own insurance. In the universe of ObamaCare, unless you are among the privileged dependency class
No they aren't. Premiums are increasing because insurance companies can't drop you if you get sick, can't deny you for preexisting conditions, can't charge you significantly more for being old, can't place a lifetime cap on policies, and can't have a deductible more than $6350.
If you can't get basic facts right why don't you stick to abortion threads and let the rest of us oppose Obamacare on the merits?
Here are valid criticisms of Obamacare:
Requiring companies to provide insurance.
Classifying people as FT when they work 30 hrs/week.
The Cadillac tax on expensive policies.
Section 6001 that bans physician owned hospitals.
The fact that Obamacare does nothing to address the cost of healthcare.
Last edited by lycos679; 11-04-2013 at 10:15 AM..
Reason: stated premium, but meant deductible
But there is one more thing that they must do, they must get you over the bridge to the Obamacare exchanges. That means that your insurance policy must be terminated. First (now) it is people who are privately insured. Next it will be those who have employer based insurance.
Under ObamaCare, those who work for a living, the responsible class, incur massive premium and deductible increases to subsidize those that cannot or will not provide their own insurance. In the universe of ObamaCare, unless you are among the privileged dependency class.
The only people being harmed by these more expensive, mandated health care policies, are the people earning mid-level incomes. These are the ones who still have a job and struggle to support the unfortunate citizens to pay for their Food Stamps, SSDI, unemployment insurance, and many much freebies, while taking care of their own families at the same time. Now they will be the ones paying for the health care subsides of everyone who earn less then they do.
The only people being harmed by these more expensive, mandated health care policies, are the people earning mid-level incomes. These are the ones who still have a job and struggle to support the unfortunate citizens to pay for their Food Stamps, SSDI, unemployment insurance, and many much freebies, while taking care of their own families at the same time. Now they will be the ones paying for the health care subsides of everyone who earn less then they do.
SSDI is not a freebe. We pay into that our whole working lives.
No they aren't. Premiums are increasing because insurance companies can't drop you if you get sick, can't deny you for preexisting conditions, can't charge you significantly more for being old, can't place a lifetime cap on policies, and can't have a premium more than $6350.
If you can't get basic facts right why don't you stick to abortion threads and let the rest of us oppose Obamacare on the merits?
Here are valid criticisms of Obamacare:
Requiring companies to provide insurance.
Classifying people as FT when they work 30 hrs/week.
The Cadillac tax on expensive policies.
Section 6001 that bans physician owned hospitals.
The fact that Obamacare does nothing to address the cost of healthcare.
You left out standing between me and my health care provider and doctors, by dictating which insurance policy I must buy, or be punished.
Isn't it enough that I buy health care insurance that I like, must I be forced to only buy insurance that some nameless, faceless bureaucrat likes?
Then again, this is a democrat plan to help the uninsured get insurance, that punishes the uninsured if they don't have insurance.
This is like a plan to help the homeless get a home, but mandating they buy a five bedroom, two story house with a full basement and two car garage, or be punished.
"Hi there, we are democrats, and we care, now obey us or get punished!"
SSDI is not a freebe. We pay into that our whole working lives.
Social Security Disability Insurance, it's what states are forcing those people on welfare or the unemployed to go on, so they become a finacial responsibility of the federal government.
Large portions of this outrage are deliberately manufactured by the insurance companies. Not that the right will want to admit it. Holy Corporations rule!
The only people being harmed by these more expensive, mandated health care policies, are the people earning mid-level incomes. These are the ones who still have a job and struggle to support the unfortunate citizens to pay for their Food Stamps, SSDI, unemployment insurance, and many much freebies, while taking care of their own families at the same time. Now they will be the ones paying for the health care subsides of everyone who earn less then they do.
Like I said, if you can't get basic facts right then stick to abortion threads.
Social Security Disability Insurance, it's what states are forcing those people on welfare or the unemployed to go on, so they become a finacial responsibility of the federal government.
You really need to do your homework and turn the TV off. You have to pay and have paid FICA for several years before you are even eligible for SSDI. And even if you paid into it for years, then stopped working for a certain amount of years, you will lose the ability to collect SSDI unless one re-enters the workforce and works a certain amount of quarters in order to re-qualify. SSDI is not easy at all to collect--
By the way try not to confuse SSI with SSDI. They are two completely different programs.
People will start getting letters from their employers telling them they either must make up the difference (higher cost) or that their insurance policies are being dropped. This will be starting around Sept, October of next year.
As this CBS News report documents, even the least expensive new plans (the so-called "bronze level" plans) are extraordinarily more expensive than comparable existing plans.
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