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Old 11-07-2013, 11:49 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
...is like saying that Poland should still be part of Germany. The allies took that land from Germany after WWII.
FWIW, the parts of Poland taken by Germany are still part of Germany. Also The parts taken by Russia when they were allied to Germany have still not been returned to Poland. Those lands are now Ukraine and Belarus. And FYI 3 Million of the Jews that died during WW2 came from that land.
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Old 11-07-2013, 01:21 PM
 
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No, why don't you go learn something and come back when you do. Educating yourself is YOUR job. You were wrong, you don't know what you're talking about, but that doesn't stop you, does it?

A typical obamabot. Buh bye.
I guess you don't know then, just another uninformed Bush-bot.
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Old 11-07-2013, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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FWIW, the parts of Poland taken by Germany are still part of Germany. Also The parts taken by Russia when they were allied to Germany have still not been returned to Poland. Those lands are now Ukraine and Belarus. And FYI 3 Million of the Jews that died during WW2 came from that land.
Ah, a little history lesson. The Soviet Union (not "Russia") was not allied with Germany during WW2. They were allied with us (US/Great Briton, the rest of the "allied forces"). To say that parts of Poland taken by the allies was not given up after the war reinforces my point. And ALL of Poland was taken by Germany...are you trying to say that there is no Poland any more?
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Old 11-07-2013, 01:37 PM
 
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OP, I think you mean israelite muslims ? As in people of israelite descent who converted to Islam ? Jew, israeli, and israelite all have different meanings but because there is some kind of overlap between their definitions sometimes it can be confusing.
The Jewish people were chosen by God to be a priestly people, set apart to worship the one true God, as stated in the following verses:

Deuteronomy 1:8 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
8 'See, I have placed the land before you; go in and possess the land which the Lord swore to give to your fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to them and their descendants after them.’

Deuteronomy 7:6
New American Standard Bible (NASB)
6 For you are a holy people to the Lord your God; the Lord your God has chosen you to be a people for His own possession out of all the peoples who are on the face of the earth.

Deuteronomy 6:10-11 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
10 “Then it shall come about when the Lord your God brings you into the land which He swore to your fathers, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, to give you, great and splendid cities which you did not build, 11 and houses full of all good things which you did not fill, and hewn cisterns which you did not dig, vineyards and olive trees which you did not plant, and you eat and are satisfied,
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Old 11-07-2013, 02:41 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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The Jewish people were chosen by God to be a priestly people, set apart to worship the one true God, as stated in the following verses:

Deuteronomy 1:8 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
8 'See, I have placed the land before you; go in and possess the land which the Lord swore to give to your fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to them and their descendants after them.’

Deuteronomy 7:6
New American Standard Bible (NASB)
6 For you are a holy people to the Lord your God; the Lord your God has chosen you to be a people for His own possession out of all the peoples who are on the face of the earth.

Deuteronomy 6:10-11 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
10 “Then it shall come about when the Lord your God brings you into the land which He swore to your fathers, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, to give you, great and splendid cities which you did not build, 11 and houses full of all good things which you did not fill, and hewn cisterns which you did not dig, vineyards and olive trees which you did not plant, and you eat and are satisfied,
Well, God might not exist, so yeah.
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Old 11-07-2013, 02:49 PM
 
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You do realize that the Jewish and Palestinian government doesn't want peace... I let them fight it out and the victor declared and then they all get absorb into one nation... then we'll let the healing begin otherwise, nothing ever changes...
I think PA President wants peace but you will never ever get it as long as Likud is running Israel. You never would get it with Arafat in Palestine either. But if you got somebody like the current Palestine President and a leader like Shimon Perez in Israel, peace would be possible.
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Old 11-07-2013, 02:50 PM
 
Location: North America
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Many people do not know that the place where Joshua crossed first the Jordan river into Canaan (the West Bank), is where many Jews have lived for centuries, even if they are Muslim, and that most of the Israelis who are stealing their land are non-Jews. If it is 'illegal' to do so, why does America continue to send billions a year in 'welfare' checks to Israel?

"Israel has announced plans to build 1,500 new settlement homes in East Jerusalem, the part of the city occupied by Israel in 1967 but claimed by Palestinians, just hours after it freed 26 Palestinian prisoners as part of a deal to restart peace talks.

Settlements built on territories occupied by Israel in the war of June 1967, including East Jerusalem, are deemed illegal by the United Nations, and Obama Administration Middle East adviser Philip Gordon reiterated on Tuesday that "the United States does not accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlement expansion."

U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon praised Israel's release of the prisoners, but said in a statement that settlement activity was "contrary to international law and constitutes an obstacle to peace."

An estimated 500,000 Israelis currently live in settlements in the occupied territories that are also home to 2.5 million Palestinians."

Israel to build 1,500 new settlement homes in East Jerusalem | Al Jazeera America
What's a Muslim Jew?
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Old 11-07-2013, 03:12 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Ah, a little history lesson. The Soviet Union (not "Russia") was not allied with Germany during WW2. They were allied with us (US/Great Briton, the rest of the "allied forces"). To say that parts of Poland taken by the allies was not given up after the war reinforces my point. And ALL of Poland was taken by Germany...are you trying to say that there is no Poland any more?
The Soviet Union (not "Russia") = semantics

Actually you need the history lesson.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territories_of_Poland_annexed_by_the_Soviet_Union
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Old 11-07-2013, 03:16 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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I think PA President wants peace but you will never ever get it as long as Likud is running Israel. You never would get it with Arafat in Palestine either. But if you got somebody like the current Palestine President and a leader like Shimon Perez in Israel, peace would be possible.
I'm open for a theory. Let's hear yours on how exactly it would work.

But here is a link to chew on:
http://virtualjerusalem.com/news.php?Itemid=11159
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Old 11-07-2013, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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What is a Muslim Jew? Isn't that an oxymoron?
Yes.......you can be an Arab Jew, but you can't be a Muslim Jew.
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