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Old 11-04-2013, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Idaho
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I thought Bush ordered a lot of drone strikes. 86.3% have been ordered by our current Commander in Chief. Guess he's right when he said he is "really good at killing people.”

Heaven have mercy on us. The children.


Casualty estimates


Reported deaths and injuries
Pakistan 2004–2013
CIA Drone Strikes


Total strikes: 378
Obama strikes: 326
Total killed: 2,528-3,648
Civilians killed: 416-948
Children killed: 168-200
Injured: 1,125-1,545



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New book: Obama told aides that drones make him 'really good at killing people'

numbers above from: http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com...ones-pakistan/

(I do not know if "the Bureau of Investigative Journalism" is a reputable source. Looks like a UK organization.)
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Old 11-04-2013, 04:41 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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OP, you're right. The US should just give up hunting Islamist terrorists -- especially if they hide among civilians. I mean, what have they ever done to us?
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Old 11-04-2013, 04:44 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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I thought Bush ordered a lot of drone strikes. 86.3% have been ordered by our current Commander in Chief. Guess he's right when he said he is "really good at killing people.”

Heaven have mercy on us. The children.


Casualty estimates


Reported deaths and injuries
Pakistan 2004–2013
CIA Drone Strikes


Total strikes: 378
Obama strikes: 326
Total killed: 2,528-3,648
Civilians killed: 416-948
Children killed: 168-200
Injured: 1,125-1,545



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New book: Obama told aides that drones make him 'really good at killing people'

numbers above from: Drone strikes in Pakistan | The Bureau of Investigative Journalism

(I do not know if "the Bureau of Investigative Journalism" is a reputable source. Looks like a UK organization.)
So would you rather us send in troops on the ground to go kill these terrorist?
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Old 11-04-2013, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Idaho
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So would you rather us send in troops on the ground to go kill these terrorist?
I am a combat veteran who served two tours of duty in Vietnam. Killing civilians, and especially children is murder! It is wrong!
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Old 11-04-2013, 04:50 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Originally Posted by volosong View Post
I thought Bush ordered a lot of drone strikes. 86.3% have been ordered by our current Commander in Chief. Guess he's right when he said he is "really good at killing people.”

Heaven have mercy on us. The children.


Casualty estimates


Reported deaths and injuries
Pakistan 2004–2013
CIA Drone Strikes


Total strikes: 378
Obama strikes: 326
Total killed: 2,528-3,648
Civilians killed: 416-948
Children killed: 168-200
Injured: 1,125-1,545



- - - - -

New book: Obama told aides that drones make him 'really good at killing people'

numbers above from: Drone strikes in Pakistan | The Bureau of Investigative Journalism

(I do not know if "the Bureau of Investigative Journalism" is a reputable source. Looks like a UK organization.)
Pakistan lowers estimate of civilians killed by drone strikes | Fox News



WHERE was the self-Righteous outrage over the deaths of innocents when we were bombing the crap out of Iraq? Do you only think it's OK when we place Americans in harm's way during the process?
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Old 11-04-2013, 04:51 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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I am a combat veteran who served two tours of duty in Vietnam. Killing civilians, and especially children is murder! It is wrong!
And how are we supposed to fight an enemy that has no such qualms?
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Old 11-04-2013, 04:52 PM
 
Location: California
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OP, you're right. The US should just give up hunting Islamist terrorists -- especially if they hide among civilians. I mean, what have they ever done to us?
Exactly. Since when did conservatives become such pacifist?
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Old 11-04-2013, 04:54 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Exactly. Since when did conservatives become such pacifist?
I think they resent drones because manned aircraft allow them to donate more $$$ to their cherished sacred cow, the MIC. And if Americans die in the process they really don't give a rat's ass as long as the bottom line gets a boost.
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Old 11-04-2013, 05:02 PM
 
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Originally Posted by volosong View Post
I thought Bush ordered a lot of drone strikes. 86.3% have been ordered by our current Commander in Chief. Guess he's right when he said he is "really good at killing people.”

Heaven have mercy on us. The children.


Casualty estimates


Reported deaths and injuries
Pakistan 2004–2013
CIA Drone Strikes


Total strikes: 378
Obama strikes: 326
Total killed: 2,528-3,648
Civilians killed: 416-948
Children killed: 168-200
Injured: 1,125-1,545



- - - - -

New book: Obama told aides that drones make him 'really good at killing people'

numbers above from: Drone strikes in Pakistan | The Bureau of Investigative Journalism

(I do not know if "the Bureau of Investigative Journalism" is a reputable source. Looks like a UK organization.)
Now go dig up some data on how many people would die if we went in Marines and Seals or if we didn't kill the terrorist leaders and let me know how that stacks up.
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Old 11-04-2013, 05:07 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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What's the big deal about drone strikes?

It's not morally different from shooting an enemy with a rifle or grenade launcher. It's you guiding the weapon to the location, you looking through the sights, you picking the target, you centering the sights on the target, you pressing the "Fire" button.

And certainly no real difference from dropping the same bomb or missile, from a manned fighter plane or bomber.

Except in this case your own guy has a lot less chance of dying. Is that what the I-hate-drone-strikes people are against?
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