Do you believe Obama Deliberately Lied With "If you like your insurance plan, you can keep it. Period." (healthcare, speech)

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Originally Posted by ovcatto

Millions sounds like a lot but when you consider that those millions represent 3% of the insured population... a big lie it don't make.

"...much of the current controversy involves the six per cent of Americans who buy their own health care on the individual market, which the A.C.A. has dramatically reformed. Gruber argued that half of these people (three per cent of all Americans) will have little change to their polices. “They have to buy new plans, but they will be pretty similar to what they had before,” he said. “It will essentially be relabeling.”'

Obamacare's Three Per Cent : The New Yorker

A lie to the public is a lie.

Just that a lie and nothing but.

IF I rob a bank but only ask for $5000. am I only half a bank robber?

Your info is incorrect too.

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Originally Posted by Trace21230

Well, I agree with you. However, I've heard enough knee-jerk defenses of his statements from our friends on the left that I felt a poll was warranted.

I'm wondering where they are on this poll though? Surely FancyFeast isn't the only liberal who thinks Obama was telling the truth?

To clarify, those that argue that he didn't lie still believe he told the truth.
There has been no repentance or admission even to themselves.

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Originally Posted by no1brownsfan

They had to pass it to see what was in it...........

He said the same thing and even to a further extreme after it was already passed and Law.

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Originally Posted by petch751

If that were true you would think he would FIRE his advisers NOW. What kind of advisers would not say "ahh Obama, people will lose their insurance, you need to change it up say "except"

They did but the intentional lie continued to be told, again & again...................


It is a lie, not a "broken promise".
It was outright bald face intentional deception.

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Originally Posted by Terryj

Now the Obama administration says that about 5% of Americans will loose the health insurance, so technically Obama is only 5% lying.

No, the lying was to 100% of the American people.

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Originally Posted by Trace21230

I agree he didn't read the bill. But that doesn't really tell us whether he lied.

I believe someone in his administration read the bill; in fact, they probably wrote it. He knew what he was saying wasn't true. It's just not possible to believe otherwise.

If myself and many others knew it years ago Obama had to, he created the lie.

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Originally Posted by le roi

for those of you who pay more attention to what the president says: out of curiosity -- is this something he repeated on multiple occasions? Or did he just say it once?

Literally dozens if times at least.
Well documented on many videos.

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Originally Posted by no1brownsfan
They had to pass it to see what was in it...........

Originally Posted by Soup Sandwich

Exactly like a stool sample.

This ought to be chiseled in stone, bronzed, and placed out side of the Capitol Bld. entrance as a reminder to avoid cr*p like this in the future.

Soup Sandwich you deserve a prize for this.

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He's on TV still trying to cover that it was a lie right now today on a NBC News interview.

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Originally Posted by DJboutit

Yes they started dropping people in the last couple of months Obama's statement was over a yr ago still not a lie how ever you spin this he just made a wrong prediction

Sorry to hear of your head injury.
Hope you recover.