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View Poll Results: Did Obama Deliberately Lie?
Yes, he lied. 232 86.25%
No, he did not lie. 28 10.41%
I'm not sure/don't know/don't care/Bush made him lie/other 9 3.35%
Voters: 269. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-09-2013, 06:18 PM
 
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Well I am thinking of "Read my lips, no new taxes" and "I will not send our boys off to foreign wars" and realize sometimes things go real bad.
Not comparable.

Obama knew since 2010 that what he was saying was false, yet he campaigned on it.

Bush Senior flip flopped. Obama straight up looked you in the eye and lied. Both are wrong, but Obama's ability to lie is more of a personality trait of his.


P.S. You didn't vote. Why not? Emotional attachment to Obama won't let you call a spade a spade?
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Old 11-09-2013, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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The second quote is from FDR in 1940.
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Old 11-09-2013, 06:32 PM
 
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The second quote is from FDR in 1940.
Pearl Harbor Dec. 7th, 1941. FDR was not Miss Cleo.

Obama knew since 2010 that his promise was BS and repeated the lie, knowing it was a lie, over and over again for 3 years to get votes and support.
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Old 11-09-2013, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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FDR as you must know actually was trying to find ways to have the USA enter the war against the Nazis.
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Old 11-09-2013, 07:05 PM
 
Location: My little patch of Earth
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The main reason for the ACA was people not having health care coverage, did anyone from the right care about that fact.
Of course we did.Rising costs affects everyone, not just the left.

Every issue the ACA touted to fix by those heaping such high praise could have and should have been addressed in a way that was far more responsible than decimation of everyone's coverage.
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Old 11-09-2013, 07:20 PM
 
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FDR as you must know actually was trying to find ways to have the USA enter the war against the Nazis.
Fair point, but FDR didn't know US involvement was inevitable when he made the statement once. FDR would have been fine lend leasing if that could have defeated the axis. And technically, FDR did not send any boys off to a foreign war. Japan attacked us. Germany declared war on us.

Obama knew this was inevitable and lied over and over again.
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Old 11-09-2013, 07:22 PM
 
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I do believe he was aware of this all along and that was part of his plan to sell it to everyone. I remember it being repeated by so many other politicians. Now we are seeing what it is all about and people realize this is not good for everyone. Sucks big time.
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Old 11-10-2013, 06:40 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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The main reason for the ACA was people not having health care coverage, did anyone from the right care about that fact.
I'm sure they did but weren't willing to destroy the health of the nation to "fix" it.
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Old 11-10-2013, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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So you think it's ok to punish responsible people?
No, it was a big mistake in the ACA to have people lose their current plans but I do see quite a degree of hypocrisy by the GOP with their sudden concern regarding health care.
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Old 11-10-2013, 05:44 PM
 
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Obama knew this was inevitable and lied over and over again.
Yup he had to TO MAKE SURE THE PUPPETS BOUGHT INTO HIS SCAM!!
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