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Old 11-05-2013, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Originally Posted by Tassy001 View Post
LOL...you just can't make this stuff up.


Kaiser Health Tracking Poll, The telephone survey of 1,513 adults ages 18 and older in all 50 states was conducted Oct. 17-23. It had a margin of error of 3 percentage points.

So, lets use the opinions of 1,513 people.....to state that most Americans support Obama care.

Since, the OP seems to have a slight problem with math. Let me help

Population of the USA (2012) 313.9 million
Kaiser Poll 1,513

Not even .00000000000000001 % of the population.

.....open mouth insert foot.....
~1,500 is a pretty typical sample size. I'm not doubting the poll based on that. In fact, the poll actually says the people are against it. Whoever wrote that headline simply has some kind of "creative" method of interpreting the results, that's all.
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Old 11-05-2013, 12:41 PM
 
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irrelevant. The discussion - which you started, i'm happy to remind you - is about whether the public approves or disapproves of the law. They disapprove. Your thread and your argument are both failures of the highest degree. It's as if you didn't even read the article before you posted the headline.
Ok...

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gallup, who conducted the poll in mid-october after exchanges opened, suggests this means the difficulty with online enrollment has — so far — not had a negative impact on americans’ overall view of the law.

poll: Affordable care act approval inches up - lucy mccalmont - politico.com
In other words the tech problems aren't turning enough Americans off to the broader benefits of this as health policy.
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Old 11-05-2013, 12:51 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Keep telling yourself something, eventually you will believe the crap you put out. I know not one person who is in favor of this new law, not one. And i know a lot of people and have a lot of clients.

You feel that people who are paying less for their premiums and getting quality care, want to give up what they have, Give it up, not the way it is.

Fact is people have gotten burned once again by our dear leader, explain that, and why so many damn lies that change from day to day!

Don't know which is worse, that who tells the lie, or those who condone the gosh damn ever chaning lies.
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Old 11-05-2013, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Ok...

In other words the tech problems aren't turning enough Americans off to the broader benefits of this as health policy.
Wrong.

In other words, people DIDN'T LIKE OR WANT IT before the website disaster, and people STILL DON'T LIKE OR WANT IT.

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Public Approval of Health Care Law

Geez, you just don't know when to quit. You stand no chance of winning this argument, because you're simply wrong about it. This law is not supported by the public, and it never has been. Even the article you posted demonstrated that fact, regardless of the author's attempt to twist the numbers in another direction.

Give up, Motion. Seriously. I'm trying to do you a favor here. You can take whatever position you want to about the law, but you can't make up your own numbers when it comes to what other people think, and those numbers tell a very clear story - the people don't want this law, and they never have.
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Old 11-05-2013, 03:19 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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This clears up where many Americans actually stand on this.
Meanwhile Gallup has Obama approval into the 30's. Go figure.
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Old 11-05-2013, 03:23 PM
 
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I think its like so many polls ;not really reflective of what people think.poll wording makes all the difference. Besides that people appear to only just actually getting to know what the law actually contains which is surprising really.
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Old 11-05-2013, 03:23 PM
 
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There are still a lot of people that still do not even understand ACA get a lot of them up to speed about it and support will be over 60%
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Old 11-05-2013, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Flippin AR
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Most Americans are uninformed morons who haven't the foggiest idea WHAT Obamacare does. Ask them if they support ANY OF THE SPECIFICS:

"Do you support a law that requires you to BUY health insurance coverage from a for-profit company, no matter what the cost?"

"Do you support having to pay twice as much (or more) for your health insurance to cover a HUGE variety of things you will never need--like maternity care when you are far past the age of childbearing, coverage for children up to age 26 when you never had children, drug abuse treatment when you are a teetotaler, etc.?"

"Do you support losing your current health insurance plan, and having to buy a new plan that costs twice as much, with $10,000 deductibles and higher, and only 70% coverage when it does kick in?"

"Do you support a $1 trillion windfall for the Big Insurance and Big Heath industries, paid for by taxpayers and people paying more for health insurance?"

"Do you support a plan that has all of the above effects, and STILL LEAVES 30 MILLION UNINSURED?"
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Old 11-05-2013, 03:42 PM
 
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It's all about who you ask.
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Old 11-05-2013, 04:15 PM
 
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The problem is they favor SOME of the stuff in Obamacare, doesn't mean that they like everything about Obamacare... liberals have a hard time understanding it...

What they like is all the free stuff they can get by using the force of government to steal their neighbor's paycheck.


JWK



They are not “liberals”. They are conniving Marxist parasites who use the cloak of government force to steal the wealth which wage earners, business and investors have worked to create

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