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Old 12-30-2013, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I made homemade tortillas (flour, oil, water and salt) as well as black beans and rice once/week (all extremely cheap in bulk) and added in whatever was cheap in the store for most of my food. You can eat a meal this way for a few dozen cents/person/meal.

A 50 lb bag of flour, 50 lb bag of rice and 20 lb bag of black beans costs next to nothing and keeps you fed for a long, long time. Just add in whatever fresh veggies and meat is on sale.

No one says having a low income should be living in luxury, but it is absolutely possible. Let me ask for a third time, what is the monthly budget you expect someone to follow?
That would depend on the person, but if you Google cost of living, there are plenty of good sites that give you a breakdown of what you are asking.
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Old 12-30-2013, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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You have just been saying that a higher wage would get them off government programs.
Now you want the eligibility to be raised so they can stay on government programs ?

I can only shake my head at that type of thinking.

Why not just leave them where they are and you don't have to change the programs then ?
A higher minimum wage would allow them to need less government assistance, you already stated how much one would need to make to need no government assistance.
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Old 12-30-2013, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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A higher minimum wage would allow them to need less government assistance, you already stated how much one would need to make to need no government assistance.
No a higher wage will get them kicked out of the programs.
Make $1 over and you're out.

There is no "less government assistance"..it's all or none.
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Old 12-30-2013, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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No a higher wage will get them kicked out of the programs.
Make $1 over and you're out.

There is no "less government assistance"..it's all or none.
Thus is why that would then need to be changed so that they still get government assistance, only less because they are now making more.
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Old 12-30-2013, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Thus is why that would then need to be changed so that they still get government assistance, only less because they are now making more.
But that's not on the table.
That was my suggestion on how the system "should" work.

That kind of change will never happen.
You have to deal with reality here and reality says $15/hour will put them in far worse shape than they are at $9/hour.
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Old 12-30-2013, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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But that's not on the table.
That was my suggestion on how the system "should" work.

That kind of change will never happen.
You have to deal with reality here and reality says $15/hour will put them in far worse shape than they are at $9/hour.
In this one town, maybe, maybe not. It depends on the age group of the employees that would be effected by this increase.
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Old 12-30-2013, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Texas
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A higher minimum wage would allow them to need less government assistance, you already stated how much one would need to make to need no government assistance.
Those making close to $28/hour do not "need" government assistance just because it's available.
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Old 12-30-2013, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Those making close to $28/hour do not "need" government assistance just because it's available.
Of course not, I never suggested they would need government assistance at that income level.
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Old 12-30-2013, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Of course not, I never suggested they would need government assistance at that income level.
But I'm pretty sure that's the figure that was mentioned earlier.
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Old 12-30-2013, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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In this one town, maybe, maybe not. It depends on the age group of the employees that would be effected by this increase.
I've been saying "family" over and over.
Age is no matter if you have a family and working for $9/hour.
25 with a family or 35 with a family or 50 with a family…still working $9/hour supporting a family.

Parking lot attendants and hotel maids are going to be making $15/hour.

Why do you keep changing the parameters here ?
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